OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...oronavirus-antibody-tests-terrible/index.html

Coronavirus antibody tests have "really terrible" accuracy, researcher says

 

I don’t think the article I shared said it was less lethal than the flu. The mortality rate is lower, but the infection rate is much much higher.

 

that study has been criticized by some expert epidemiologists over the last 10 days or so

but more than that is it just isn't credible, IMO. If the mortality rate is around .01%, then with 60,000 dead, that means that 60 million Americans have/had Covid. Does anybody really believe that?

 

Probably should be its own thread as this isn't related to coronavirus.

 

I think it’s actually highly likely. Seems this virus spreads pretty damn quickly.

It’s okay to be critical of the study. That’s science

 

then, that's basically 1 in 5 Americans have/had Covid. Like I said, it's not credible to me

 

Correct. The issue is that because such a large percentage of the population will get it, even a mortality rate of 0.5-0.6% (based on everyone who gets the virus, not those who have a confirmed diagnosis) would result about a million deaths in the US (330 million x projected 60% infection rate x .005 mortality rate). The flu has a similar mortality rate, but has a far lesser infection rate because so many people get vaccinated each year and because there can be some herd immunity due to there having been similar flu viruses in the past.

 

Why? 26 million Americans had the flu last season from November-April. It’s been widely reported Covid is much more contagious than the flu.

 

Agreed

 

It could turn out that's the case in densely populated areas where there's been a major outbreak, like New York, but you can't apply that same rate over the entire US population because conditions vary so widely from place to place.

 

Great, now they are releasing recent sex offenders into the population for their safety.

 

where in the hell did she get the 80,000 dead number? The CDC said 34,000 dead in US in the 2018-19 season. Looks like fake news to me and knowing she's a trump shill the motivation seems pretty clear. But maybe I'm missing something

so then, 34,000 dead in 2018 from flu. And an estimated 24,000 dead this season, when for 2 months of the season vast numbers of Americans have been under stay-at-home orders and have practiced social distancing. I don't see anything surprising in those numbers....except for the 80,000 number and considering the source, even that's not surprising

 

I think she’s talking about the 2017-18 flu season. One of the worst in the past decade.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018/archive.htm

 

right....60,000 dead....not 80,000

the only way she might have got to 80,000 is combine two different flu seasons....which is about 8 months. Covid has been going for 2 months and has matched the 17-18 season for mortality. And really it's only been for a month as there were 'only' 3,200 dead a month ago. In other words, Covid appears like it will just about match the 17-18 flu season's total mortality in 1 month

 

not according to CDC

 

Ok, I stand corrected but in my defense I was using the same link:



notice the bottom right hand corner where it said 61,099. I didn't read all of the text and if they corrected it later, seems like they should have corrected in their own chart

still, the main point is that the tweet from candace parker was definitely trying to suggest some flim-flam with numbers. And any examination of how flu mortality can fluctuate from season to season disproves her implication

and why did she use the most deadly flu season in a long time as the gauge instead of last year's flu season (2018-19). That's a rhetorical question because we all know that an 80,000 to 24,000 drop looks more suspicious than a 34,000 to 24,000 drop under 2 months of social distancing

 

Oregon Health Authority | COVID-19 Updates

Look at the demographics and additional data.

Of 99 deaths in Oregon ,6 under 60 years old, and 0 under 40 means it a disease that primarily is fatal to older people with underlying conditions.

 

Oregon has too small a sample size to draw solid conclusions....IMO

looking at national numbers from a a couple of weeks ago:



8% of deaths were in people 54 and younger

for sure, older people are more vulnerable, but that's true for almost all illnesses. I'm not sure why it matters unless the argument is in favor of Darwinism as policy