OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. Chris Craig

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    It's not even about reports. Yeah I am sure there are conflicting reports saying the death rates are either going to rise or fall. They are all conjecture and all carry different motives I am sure.

    But, I am looking at the numbers. It's up to 10,000 people a day in Florida. Some of those people will die. It is the nature of disease.

    There are a few reasons though the death rate may be different this time around. The affected are younger....more 20's -30's rather than the older population. The younger people are able to fight it off better, hence less deaths

    Also, as I said above, hospitals have found better ways to treat it, even though we have yet to find a workable vaccine.

    I think it is irresponsible to say fuck it, let's just let everyone get it and hope for a herd immunity that we are unsure exists.

    I am not going to just purposely allow my son to get this virus (though it has had little affect in some kids, it has caused an inflammatory disease in others that attacks their Organs) and risk his death.

    My family and I have worn our masks and been aware of our surroundings, limiting the the things we touch, wearing gloves for the most part, washing our hands when we get home, and it has worked thus far. My family has not gotten sick. So, it works and I will continue to do it.
     
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    Over $3000 for people with private insurance. I wonder which politicians have their fingers in that pie.
     
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    That's not including the hospital bill.
     
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    Coronavirus: Worst is still to come on pandemic, WHO chief warns
     
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  5. Chris Craig

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    This. We need to people to be responsible and not throw tantrums because an inconvenience or be spiteful because of politics. This isnt about Republicans or Democrats or liberals or conservatives. It's about being a conscientious human being and taking precautions and being aware of the people around you, your footprint, etc.

    It is not that hard to wear a mask. It is not the end of the world to do. Not wearing one might be. It's not that hard to be mindful of space and others in it. We all have to do our part or this virus is going no where.
     
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    the pandemic hadn't occurred when he shut down the CDC office established by Obama in Beijing as a waste of tax payer money that would be better spent building his fucking wall or when he defunded Doctors without Borders to make America great again and say fuck you shithole countries......yep...he did those things before we had a corona virus
     
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    Wear a mask even if it’s not required

    this isn’t rocket science
     
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    With the new cases drastically spiking the number of deaths will also rise but not likely at the same rate as before. The fact that the number of deaths per case is notthe same as it was in say April, should not be a surprise. A lot of those people were in bad health to begin with and those tens of thousands who died back then certainly won't die for a second time so the numbers will be different.

    But deaths are not the only consideration with this virus...Covid also can cause permanent and substantial lung damage, affecting the work force because of how many people are hospitalized, which in turn, also puts a strain on hospitals and hospital staffs,...not to mentioned that as long as these spikes go on, the more the virus will spread.



    ...it's been beaten to death but the fact is that most states reopened at least a month too early, period. We had our foot on the neck of this virus but took our foot off for the sake of the economy and in the name of some woefully perceived entitlement.
     
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    Can you please show me where Trump cut CDC funding? I'm not finding it. It was proposed is all i'm finding, which isn't a cut.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/false-claim-about-cdcs-global-anti-pandemic-work/

    I cant find anything about any cuts being mad,e and if I remember correctly this was brought up about a month ago and was pointed out the cuts were only a proposal, butr was dismissed by the forum.

    So i've searched and cant find a link on actual cuts. Care to share? Otherwise, I have to chalk that up to fake news. Sorry.
     
  10. Chris Craig

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    Further cuts are part of Trumps 2021 budget proposal, but congress hasn't approved it yet

    https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/exc...ina-months-before-virus-outbreak-2020-03-22-0

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN21C3N5

    He already did get rid of the CDC expert in China as well as 2/3 of the other staff 2 months before coronavirus hit the US
     
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    Also, keep in mind that there's been a lot of finger pointing about some states "cooking the books" with respect to their numbers.
     
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    I know some people who think all of the US's numbers are umm bull... In their opinion it got wrapped in politics and who's going to get funded, and some places are describing COVID deaths as people who died with COVID not "from COVID", I know some who think that the numbers are way worse than what's being reported because of politics too. Interesting world we live in...
     
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    I think this might go both ways, Both parties are using the virus for political gain.

    Lets not act like one is better than the other in all this.
     
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    not all CDC funding....the office for pandemic research in Beijing started by Obama...
    When President Trump took office in 2017, the White House’s National Security Council Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense survived the transition intact. Its mission was the same as when I was asked to lead the office, established after the Ebola epidemic of 2014: to do everything possible within the vast powers and resources of the U.S. government to prepare for the next disease outbreak and prevent it from becoming an epidemic or pandemic.


    One year later, I was mystified when the White House dissolved the office, leaving the country less prepared for pandemics like covid-19.
    There are several other examples but this one is from March Washington Post
    It’s impossible to assess the full impact of the 2018 decision to disband the White House office responsible for this work. Biological experts do remain in the White House and in our government. But it is clear that eliminating the office has contributed to the federal government’s sluggish domestic response. What’s especially concerning about the absence of this office today is that it was originally set up because a previous epidemic made the need for it quite clear.
    Trumps decision also left many African nations with one doctor per 10000 patients for Ebola or any disease they faced....he basically had no interest in humanitarian aid that would take money from his wall funding
     
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    Stop... Just Stop. You are not this stupid.
     
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    People are denying that the protests didn't cause this spike.

    Local governments approved and participated in these protests. Public health experts supported them going out in tens of thousands.
     
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    Oh, I agree that getting people to do what they should is harder than herding cats. People like my wife and me, who are older and more at risk, are pretty easy to convince. Younger people, who generally are at lower personal risk and who want to have fun, not so much. Unfortunately, we’re a pretty entitled and selfish society, which is in part why America leads the world in infections. I fully expect that things are going to go to total crap in the next month or two. We’re going to see older and sicker folks pay the ultimate price for the younger folks’ fun. The response at the state government level may well be to shut things back down again, and those who just couldn’t be bothered to be responsible now are going to be to blame for the lockdown happening again.
     
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    The places it is spiking is not where the bulk of the protests were. But lets not address that. There were not huge protests in Florida, Texas or Arizona. Now New York and Seattle and Washington DC yep they had large protests. Guess what? Largest reduction in virus transmission and new cases.
    Now as far as people going to the Florida beach and opening up restaurants in Houston and of course Arizona needed a trump rally YEP!
     
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    The funniest part is the people who don't catch the humor. TERHUNED they call it.
     
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