OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

https://www.statista.com/statistics/620926/global-billionaire-population-by-region/

 

At least we are #1 at dogs in the world, more than twice more than #2 (Brazil).

 

Of course the knowledge of confirmed cases increases with more testing. You’re literally contradicting yourself here. Aren’t you one of the ones on here pulling your hair out over the increased numbers? The fact that more cases are discovered with more testing shouldn’t even be debatable lol. It’s just basic, rudimentary logic.

 

From a mathematical POV don't these numbers kinda scream that something is off, either the rest of the world is counting things differently, or reporting differently, or something. There are quite a few countries who have handled it, similarly to the US, some worse, some better obviously, but for the US to be such a statistical outlier there's more than, "Trump" going on. I'm not defending how it's been handled, but you can't tell me in a statistics class they would look at this chart and keep the US's data, it would be disregarded as extremely out of the bounds of all the other data.
https://www.theanalysisfactor.com/outliers-to-drop-or-not-to-drop/

 

No, Trump. Just Trump. Trump created, spread and mutated this disease.

 

Either that, or the value of leadership is bigger than what you think in a country that values individualism as the US does. Other countries where the leadership actively worked against sound scientific methods (see Brazil) are also showing bad results.

 

Is the death rate up? Down? Is there any data on that?

 

Lol. You should be running for office with responses like that.

 

Fuckin Trump I knew it!

 

Yes, but we know that at least 40ish percent of the country despises Trump, they weren't listening to Trump for guidance. I mean you could say that the entire thing is because of "Trump" if you want too, but you're a mathematics guy, you're writing a program analyzing this data, how would you handle it? I can't think of a single data science class I've taken that would say an outlier this big would be considered. It would be considered a bad data sample, wouldn't it? Not arguing just asking. Mathematically speaking, you could normalize it I guess, but it's an extreme outlier and there are other countries who have handled it similarly who aren't as big of an outlier.

 

It's probably because we're testing way too much!

 

trump has proven to be an extremely poor leader especially in a time of crisis. No excuses

 

Yes, that's my point. If your analysis is just "Trump" though, that doesn't seem incredibly deep... There is more to it than that, or at least probably is... Things like it's being reported differently or counted differently, or testing is off, there's a lot of things it "could be". Just something seems off, especially because other countries have had similar issues with handling it but they aren't outliers.

 

The issue is not who is listening, this is a collection of multiple mistakes that accumulate. Mathematically, this is what I would call a compound interest problem. Early detection if he did not dismantle the team in the China, early response if the pandemic playbook has not been abandoned, disbelief that it is different from the flu, being slow to stop travel and doing it partially (not recognizing that the problem was coming from Europe when travel was restricted after the fact from China), not coordinating purchasing of equipment and having the states fight each other for supplies, spreading misinformation, diverting funds to pet projects that have proven to be a waste, continuing to ignore best practices (masks).

Yes, this problem is mostly a leadership issue. The fact that we still do not have a federal masks executive order is astonishing, the fact that we still do not have a federal supplies purchase infrastructure is amazing. Europe, as a whole, has 2 times as many citizens as the US and yet their total number of Covid-19 cases is below the US alone, they had a combination of strong EU leadership with strong individual countries leadership. (For the record, the US and the European continent are about the same size, so we are talking about twice the density for Europe for less cases - and their curve seems much much better than ours).

I am not saying there would be no pandemic if Trump was not president, I am saying we would likely look like Europe or the other non-3rd world countries if we had strong, coherent leadership with federal policies to contain it. You think the situation would not have been a whole lot better if we had coordinated federal response that was early, coherent and competent? Do you think that the president's dismal approval ratings would not have been better if this was handled much better? George W. Bush had magnificent approval ratings after 9/11 because he worked to unify the nation against the threat. Trump did not and has caused a huge part of the problem.

 

Treatment has improved since March, so survival is higher, and there is evidence more young people are getting sick. They are more likely to survive. But that could change and no one knows how much lifelong damage they will have.