OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    here's a 6 minutes video clip of trump being interviewed on Fox. I couldn't stomach watching the whole thing, probably only 2 minutes of it. But those two minutes are crammed full of blatant lies and bullshit



    a big lie is him arguing that the US has the "lowest mortality rate" in the world. Fox news, surprisingly actually facts check the piece of shit, but both Fox and trump, unsurprisingly, have minimized the listing of countries, trying to make the US look better. The worldmeter, which IIRC is based upon Johns Hopkins data says the US ranks 206th out of 215 nations

    now, there are a lot of tiny nations in there, or places like Greenland, so there may be too much apples/oranges in that list. But if you narrow it down to a somewhat broad inclusion of modernized/industrialized nations for deaths/million:

    Taiwan 0.3
    Thailand 0.8
    Jordan 1
    Hong Kong 2
    China 3
    Uzbekistan 3
    Venezuela 4
    Malaysia 4
    New Zealand 4
    Georgia 4
    Singapore 5
    Australia 5
    S. Korea 6
    Lebanon 6
    Morocco 7
    Japan 8
    Cuba 8
    Costa Rica 11
    Palestine 12
    Indonesia 15
    Nicaragua 15
    Latvia 16
    Philippines 17
    Greece 19
    India 20
    Kazakhstan 20
    Pakistan 25
    Algeria 25
    Croatia 29
    Lithuania 29
    Iceland 29
    Ukraine 34
    UAE 34
    Czechia 34
    Azerbaijan 35
    Albania 39
    Egypt 42
    Poland 43
    Bulgaria 43
    Israel 44
    Norway 47
    Argentina 50
    Estonia 52
    Belarus 53
    Serbia 54
    Slovenia 54
    Qatar 56
    Finland 59
    Oman 62
    Hungary 62
    Turkey 65
    Saudi Arabia 71
    Bahrain 73
    Bosnia and Herzegovina 76
    Austria 79
    South Africa 83
    Russia 85
    Iraq 94
    Kuwait 95
    Romania 105
    Denmark 105
    Germany 109
    Colombia 128
    Kyrgyzstan 138
    Portugal 166
    Iran 169
    Luxembourg 177
    Bolivia 180
    Armenia 216
    Switzerland 227
    Canada 234
    Panama 248
    Ecuador 299
    Mexico 301
    Ireland 355
    Netherlands 358
    Brazil 371
    Peru 394
    USA 432
    Chile 442
    France 462
    Sweden 556
    Italy 580
    Spain 608
    UK 667
    Belgium 845

    I know you could "refine" the list further, but that refining would be bogus propaganda if you started eliminating nations like Mexico, Canada, Switzerland, Germany, Denmark, etc., and you'd have to refine like crazy to get the US anywhere near #1, or even anywhere near the top-10. You could also be skeptical about data & reporting from of those nations. But that's also true of the US. Most experts believe we are under-counting deaths at a significant level. And now, with the fucking white house in charge of collecting and releasing stats, it's certain our stats are going to be massaged into a puddle of manure.

    and the thing is, the US is catching up to the worst nations. For that bottom-10 or so, here's a snapshot of a 1 week rolling average of new cases, normalized by population:

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    Brazil is the only nation in out stratosphere, and they appear to be on the downward side of their curve. Not us

    so yeah, trump is running around claiming we have the lowest mortality rate in the world and it's a giant blatant lie. But I can't tell how much of the lie is pathological and how much is ignorance

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    I'll leave it at this point in the interview for those of you who want a giant laugh:



    yep...he's a pathological liar
     
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    * "As coronavirus infections continue to surge nationwide, President Donald Trump repeated his unsubstantiated claim that the pathogen will simply “disappear” one day.

    During an interview with “Fox News Sunday,” host Chris Wallace suggested Trump had made a mistake when he stated in January and February that the virus had largely been contained.

    On Feb. 10, Trump said the virus would “miraculously” go away by April.

    “It’s going to disappear,” the president said later that month. “One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

    Meanwhile, his administration’s top public health officials were sounding the alarm about the virus, which they warned would likely have devastating impacts on American lives for months to come.

    As of Sunday, the U.S. is leading the world in known coronavirus infections and deaths, with over 3.7 million cases and 140,000 deaths recorded nationwide, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.

    But Trump stood by his comments during his interview with Wallace.

    “I’ll be right eventually,” the president said. “You know, I said, it’s going to disappear. I’ll say it again, it’s going to disappear. And I’ll be right.”

    Asked if such a statement, which has been debunked by many scientists, discredits him, Trump said he didn’t think so.

    You know why it doesn’t discredit me? Because I’ve been right probably more than anybody else,” Trump said
    ." *

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-coronavirus-disappear-fauci_n_5f145992c5b6cec246c3c713
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    yep....he's the Mad Magazine president
     
  11. wizenheimer

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    holy shit....that is really harsh, and pretty much true
     
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    Too bad the Lincoln Project is run by former Bush administration officials
     
  13. julius

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    I like how he said "they said it would go away with the heat"....no, you dumbfuck, YOU said it.
     
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  14. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    And why does that matter? Good to see some Republicans come to their senses......
     
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    Yeah with their help maybe we can go back to the sensible Republicans of 2000-2008
     
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    If Trump is re-elected there won't be anything left to go back to.
     
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    The NY Times has a really devastating analysis of what went wrong in the white house over the last 5 months

    many in the white house, led by trump really didn't give a shit about Covid deaths or the personal devastation left behind. They cared about perceptions and trump's re-election, and how to "get the economy back"

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    and Dr Birx really gets hammered here for her major responsibility in rosy scenarios and missing, by large margins, on her predictive models. The contract between Fauci and Birx is massive and of course, we know which one trump and his like-minded minions believed

    * "Dr. Birx’s belief that the United States would mirror Italy turned out to be disastrously wrong. The Italians had been almost entirely compliant with stay-at-home orders and social distancing, squelching new infections to negligible levels before the country slowly reopened. Americans, by contrast, began backing away by late April from what social distancing efforts they had been making, egged on by Mr. Trump.

    The difference was critical. As communities across the United States raced to reopen, the daily number of daily cases barely dropped below 20,000 in early May. The virus was still circulating across the country.

    Italy’s recovery curve, it turned out, looked nothing like the American one
    ." *

    She was right there as trump pushed hard, day after day, to relax guideline and re-open the economy. Her models didn't account for that
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    * "During a briefing on April 20, Mr. Trump mocked Gov. Larry Hogan of Maryland, a fellow Republican, for the state’s inability to find enough testing. Dr. Birx displayed maps with dozens of dots indicating labs that could help.

    “He really didn’t know about the federal laboratories,” Mr. Trump told reporters with mock astonishment. “He didn’t know about it.”

    But when Frances B. Phillips, the state’s deputy health secretary, reached out to one of those dots — a National Institutes of Health facility in Maryland — she was told that they were suffering from the same shortages as state labs and were not in a position to help.

    “It was clear that we were on our own and we need to develop our own strategy, which is very unlike the kind of federal response in the past public health emergencies,” Ms. Phillips recalled
    ." *

    she was participating in the lie that states had adequate support and supplies
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    * "Other nations had moved aggressively to employ an array of techniques that Mr. Trump never mobilized on a federal level, including national testing strategies and contact tracing to track down and isolate people who had interacted with newly diagnosed patients.

    “These things were done in Germany, in Italy, in Greece, Vietnam, in Singapore, in New Zealand and in China,” said Andy Slavitt, a former federal health care official who had been advising the White House.

    “They were not secret,” he said. “Not mysterious. And these were not all wealthy countries. They just took accountability for getting it done. But we did not do that here. There was zero chance here that we would ever have been in a situation where we would be dealing with ‘embers
    .’ ” *
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    * " Mr. Trump’s disdain for testing continues to affect the country. By the middle of June, lines stretched for blocks in Phoenix and in Austin, Texas. And getting results could take a week to 10 days, officials in Texas said — effectively inviting the virus to spread uncontrollably.

    Dr. Mandy K. Cohen, the top health official in North Carolina, contacted the Trump administration after a surge in June, asking the government to quickly open 100 new testing sites in her state, in addition to the 13 it was then operating.

    “We will keep those 13 open for another month — you are welcome,” Dr. Cohen said, mocking the response she received
    ." *
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-response-failure-leadership.html

    and:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/...tion=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article
     
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    If Trump is re-elected, all those old guard republicans will go back to cheering from the sidelines until the next election cycle.
     
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