OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

This is the concern. Yes, people certainly died of causes other than covid-19 for lack of care in places like NY and LA which had huge outbreaks.

You have to take action before it gets to that point. If you wait until it's happening it's already too late.

 

Yikes. Everybody please get vaccinated ASAP.

 

Not if it was preventing them from looking into other more important things.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

The important thing is that vaccinated people are being protected from needing medical attention.

 

The Delta variant wasn't a problem here in May. Things change, and the CDC should be tracking non-hospital and fatal cases. Also, the reporting is voluntary with vaccinated individuals.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/28/cdc...id-breakthrough-infections-gottlieb-says.html

 

Hunches aren't science.

 

What are we arguing about here? Can someone catch me up?

 

When does the Super Delta come out, Any dates?

 

I think the CDC should start tracking deaths and infections based on political affiliation.

 

One way to get a sample size of break through cases are to pay attention to pro sports and the Olympics. They are pretty much all vaccinated and tested daily.

 

I’ll take Satan. I always root for the underworld.

 

Honestly man, I don’t think I’ll ever get it. Not voluntarily anyway. The whole amp up, rollout and the way politicians, the media and corporations are goading is just too off-putting to me. It’s literally the entities I despise most in this world that are most actively telling me I need to do it. The more intense measures we’re starting to see are only solidifying my aversion to it. That’s just me being honest with no snark.

 

Recap: It’s exhausting. Some people want reasons and facts about why to vaccinate but pages 1-978 didn’t accomplish that so we are unearthing any and all intel to help. One poster just doesn’t like to be told what to do by big bad corporations or authority figures so that is his issue. Another poster is just bringing to light all the reasons people don’t want the vaccine yet he is vaccinated so I’m not sure what is the issue there, he’s just speaking up for the downtrodden I guess. Some of us are trying to remain patient but it’s failing and we are at the point of just “everyone shut the fuck up and take the needle”, so this should end poorly.

 

Recap. The stupid decisions of the ignorant and irresponsible will cause needless mass deaths and huge restrictions on freedom.

They will force mandatory vaccinations and the rest of us will grudgingly accept it because we'll have no choice other than allowing even more to die over an even longer period of reduced freedom and turmoil.

So yeah, yippee ki yay mother fucker.

 

My brother refuses to get the vaccine. I've tried to convince him otherwise, but to no avail. Oh well. I don't think we should force people to get vaccinated though. Their body their choice in my opinion. I also think we should fully open everything up again. If they die they die.

 

That's not good enough - because on their way to die they might cause others to die, like someone that can not get unvaccinated (like children under 12 at this point).

We should allow businesses to refuse service to people that are unwilling to do their part to protect others by vaccination and require them to wear masks when in public.

The their body their choice option is not a problem as long as they are not hurting others. Otherwise, we can apply the same logic to pulling the trigger on the gun "their body, their choice, what kills is the bullet, not the finger squeeze" (which is the NRA's entire stupid argument while arguing against background checks, but we digress).