Could we get Asik?

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  1. Denny Crane

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    My point is that Houston has Asik. Why trade him away for a chance to get Howard? Why not play him with Howard (twin towers) if they can sign him?

    Asik has a great contract at $5M for next season.

    Asik is the bird in hand.
     
  2. Denny Crane

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    http://www.thedreamshake.com/2013/4...ury-raises-big-questions-about-howards-future

    Of course there's the little question of what Houston would do with Omer Asik should they deal for Howard, but Howard probably won't concern himself with that and neither will the Rockets until he gets close to donning Rockets red.

    The Rockets won't be able to offer Dwight a five-year max contract without a sign and trade, but if Daryl Morey allows Carlos Delfino and some other non-guaranteed contracts to walk, the Rockets should have at least $17 million-$18 million to work with in the off-season. Morey could easily flick his magic wand and free up enough room to sign Dwight at a four-year max deal by swapping Thomas Robinson or another combination of young guaranteed players for draft picks.
     
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    I just don't see Houston getting Howard. I think Howard's agent will use the Houston interest to drive up his asking price. I think two scenarios will play out.

    1.) Atlanta resigns smith and signs Howard outright.

    2.) three way deal between lakers, Brooklyn and minny; sending Howard to Brooklyn, love to lakers and Lopez to minny.

    I see 2 being the most likely because they are probably going to lose Pek. Then they can go after a PF this summer via free agency.
     
  4. illmatic99

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    Asking price for what? Regardless of where he ends up, he'll get the max.
     
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    That would NOT work. You need ONE big who can shoot outside of three feet. Asik does not complement Howard at all.
     
  7. Denny Crane

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    For $5M, they have a great insurance policy and backup C. They don't need a big who can shoot outside of three feet. They'd have two DPOY candidates instead. They'd also have a C who could put up 25/game to go with Harden who does likewise. They also have two guys (Harden, Parsons) who put up about 900 3pt shots between them (more than 10/game), along with Lin's 250. I don't think they need more outside shooting.

    If they're going to trade him, it'd be for a really good player on a similar $5M contract. Or wait a year and trade him for a player with a similar $15M contract.
     
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    I show Asik making 8.3 million/yr
     
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    I think the contract sites are averaging the contract. You will notice every year says 8.3 something.

    If I recall the contract was something like 5 MIL for year 1, 5 Mil for year 2 and 15 MIL for year 3.
     
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    Is that possible? I thought at most you can have a 25% raise. 5 mil to 15 mil is a huge jump. That's 300%
     
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    the cap hit is 8.3 across all 3, but they pay out 5,5,15 or whatever.
     
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    it's part of the gilbert arenas rule, can only start at MLE level for first 2 years, but can average whatever cap space a team had.
     
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    Actually I think they had to change it slightly as the NBA determined they couldn't make that huge of a jump. That was the original contract they submitted to the league though.

    Not sure how it all shook out after the League looked at it but pretty sure his contract is not really 8.37 MIL each and every year.
     
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    Okay that makes sense.
     
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    This is right.

    The contract is 5-5-15. If the Bulls matched, it would have been 5, 5, and then 15 against their cap. The 15 is what made them balk. Houston counts $8.33M per year against it's cap. It's the CBA rule.
     
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    Question: are we under the cap enough to absorb Asik's salary? Could we do a #10 for Asik trade? (Whether or not we'd want to - I would - is another matter.)
     
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    Yes we have enough. No they wouldn't do it
     
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    The only way we get asik is if hou gets howard and whoever we take in the draft hou wants. Would love it to happen but it won't.

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    We don't actually have the cap space until after the draft anyway, right? I guess they could agree to the trade then, but we'd have to draft the player they wanted and hope they get Howard. Too much of a gamble tbh.
     
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    So... how much cap space do we have RIGHT NOW, and how much will we have after the draft?
     

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