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  1. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    The Blake/Miller comparison is awfully close in terms of overall value to this particular team, with Blake having the obvious edge simply from previous success.

    I think Miller would have a hard time taking his starting spot, and I don't think it would benefit the team as run by Nate. Miller is a guy who feels the need to score regularly so he's a better fit with the bench who needs someone to direct them. He would quickly tire of Roy demanding the ball from him every trip even though he would see other players open for better shots, just as Sergio tired of it when he started.

    Blake has done quite well in the limited role Nate allows his starter, and it's doubtful Miller would be a better bring-it-up-and-hand-it-to-Roy kind of PG. Nate has shown repeatedly that he will not adjust his offense in the slightest to take advantage of individual players talents.

    Miller was apparently brought here for the sole purpose of turning Bayless into a PG, an absurdly impossible and extremely impractical task. I'll be surprised if he's still here after this season.
     
  2. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    That just means he hasn't played on very talented teams. I don't think its even an argument he has proven himself in this league more than Blake.
     
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    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you and Rocketeer, Nate said that starting is over rated. And he is right. I never understand why so many of you get so fucking hung up on it. As I stated this morning I thought this was the best scenario but I doubted he would do it. I want to see Miller with the starters AND the second team. (so they can run) Putting Miller in halfway through the 1st and keeping him in until 5 minutes left in the 2nd lets him play with everyone.
    It is that simple. Who ever plays best finishes the game. And as Nate said that may not be either one of them.
    Thank god the players understand that winning is the only thing that matters. No conspiracy here folks.
     
  4. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    What does this even mean?!?
     
  5. BalancedMan

    BalancedMan That's out of context....

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    And he's had great teams around him...oh wait.
     
  6. mgb

    mgb Over-Nite Sensation

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    I would rep you, but it says I must spread it around first. That is pretty much what Nate said. He thinks Miller will be great with Rudy and the second team being a more running team.
     
  7. Kaydow

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    Nate can sit here and tell you tonight who the starting 5 is next year and all but guarantee it. None the less, there is a lot of time and a lot can happen in the next 3 months. If Miller comes into camp and wins the job hands down, what is Nate going to say? "Well, I'd like to start 'Dre but I made a commitment back on July to go with Blake . . . "

    IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT NATE SAYS ABOUT LINE-UPS ON JULY 27TH. NOBODY WILL CARE OR REMEMBER IT IN NOVEMBER.
     
  8. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Nate can easily say that he simply likes Miller with the second unit.
     
  9. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Is this schtick really that much fun for you?
     
  10. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Maybe its the heat.. cause I'm finding him EXTRA annoying tonight too.
     
  11. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    This is the part I disagree with. Some people in here have long memories. "Jarrett Jack is our starter, until we're 4 games into the season." "Batum's our starter, until I get butterflies on Opening Night." "Sergio's getting the lion's share of the backup PG minutes--oh wait--I mean, yeah, I knew it all along." "Greg's starting, until he injures himself 5 minutes in and then I'll flip-flop him and Joel the rest of the year"

    And as a bonus (not really lineup-related), the "Taurean Green will win us 3 to 4 games this year" one.
     
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  12. AmirIcon

    AmirIcon Well-Known Member

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    You pretty much nailed it. Nate needs to keep his mouth shut about things he has no idea of. It's the silly shit he says that makes you think how could he be taken seriously? I don't think there's any chance that Miller doesn't start, but it's just stupid for Nate to say otherwise.
     
  13. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    Though to be fair to Nate, as I read back over my post I realized those were all "veteran vs. young guy" situations. Nate, in the end, relied heavily on the veteran in each of those scenarios. It may be that Nate's just giddy that he has two PGs to choose from who he feels won't wet themselves in the face of an NBA defense. :dunno:
     
  14. Tince

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    You people crack me up.

    When we have players or coaches that say what they are feeling to the media, you crack them for being to out there. However, when guys or KP give the same interview over and over, don't reveal the truth, you rip them for being boring and overrating their players.

    Talk about a no win.
     
  15. mgb

    mgb Over-Nite Sensation

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    MB's blog has exactly what Nate said.

    From the same blog.

     
  16. handiman

    handiman Well-Known Member

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    Is that the training camp where Blake gets traded?
     
  17. LittleAlex

    LittleAlex Well-Known Member

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    I wonder what numbers those GM's are looking at. The numbers available to the average NBA watcher clearly show Blake is one of the worst starting point guards in the league.
     
  18. hasoos

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    What does that have to do with being better? It's the team that makes the number of win mark, not one player.
     
  19. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    Well, to be fair. It's a FORMER GM...

    People get fired for a reason. :)

    Ed O.
     
  20. hasoos

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    Yea Blake has done so well that he is the 2nd worst starting PG in the western conference. The only PG that is worse, is Bassy, and he isn't even in Minnesota anymore, so now that Minnesota drafted multiple PG, Blake would probably now be the worst PG in the western conference once Johnny Flynn get's rolling. Go ahead. Look around the conference. There is not one team who does not have a better PG than Steve Blake now. That is a big problem. A problem that is addressed by starting Miller.
     

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