What’s going to be really annoying is when people say “see it’s not THAT bad, we only have X00,000 deaths”, and forget that we went into massive lockdown and that is the only reason it isn’t worse. They say “that was overblown”, when in reality we don’t go into quarantine with the reg flu.
I definitely think he's wrong about his assumption on mortality. Some people have latched onto a couple of fairly discredited studies that haven't been peer-reviewed that asserted the infection rate was 50-90 times higher that the number of positive cases. Those number just don't withstand any scrutiny...at all now, go with the assumption that Covid mortality is less than the flu. With 90,000 dead from Covid and the flu having a mortality rate of 0.1%, that would mean that over 90 million Americans have/had Covid. That's higher than 1 in 4...and that's ridiculous but more than that is what the article I posted in the OP made clear is that if Covid was 'calculated' with similar algorithms and co-efficiency as the CDC uses for flu, that 90,000 number would likely be in the 150,000-200,000 level right now, if not a little higher. And that would mean that half of America has already had Covid...yeah, magical thinking now, I'd certainly say the infection rate is much higher than the current official count. Maybe 10 times higher seems about right? That would put current Covid mortality at 0.6%, which is probably closer to the real number. The only hitch to that I see is that when we had tested 3 million people we had a mortality rate of 5.2%. We've now tested 12 million and the mortality rate is 5.96%. It should be going the other direction if the actual mortality rate is less than 1%
He is arguing the death rate of Covid-19 is actually lower because the number of infected is higher than actually reported. Granted, so are the numbers of deaths. Thd death rate of Covid-19 will still be higher than the flu
Oh, I know what he's arguing. It's tin foil hat wearing conspiracy "once people figure it out I'll stop talking about it and act like I never said anything about it" shit. because as wizen said, for the death rate to be higher, based on the death totals, the # of people infected in our country alone would be almost a quarter of the country. And if that was the case, based on how it impacts elderly/sick as bad as it does, we'd either be incredibly lucky that we aren't seeing the elderly die at an alarming rate OR their argument is not based on facts and reality.
Agreed. I'll concede there is a number of unreported covid cases, but the numbers in those studies are far overinflated
Not only that, I think the death #'s are of people who actually tested positive for it. It's like there's some liberal conspiracy out there to start assigning random deaths to Covid to tarnish Trump. It's similar to the illegal voting conspiracies that you hear all the time, which are not based in reality.
Plus, I know it's just an easy way to distract people from stuff. Like, someone who pulls a fire alarm during the finals.
Lmao! The deaths are the same. The confirmed infected is 1.5 million. The “antibodies studies” which measure those infected and recovered have a result of 50-85x more infections than the confirmed infected. 50 x 1.5 million = 70 million infected on the low end. On the high end 85 x 1.5 million = 127.5 million. The confirmed mortality is still 85k Stanford Study: https://www.stanforddaily.com/2020/...ers-test-3200-people-for-covid-19-antibodies/ USC study: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/results-antibody-test-study-reveal-covid-19-cases/story?id=70249753 New York Study: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/23/new...ents-have-had-the-coronavirus-cuomo-says.html Florida Miami Study: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article242260406.html Florida Tampa Study: https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2020/04/23/covid-19-antibody-testing-in-tampa-bay Get your shit outta here!
I guess he uses the theory of out of sight out of mind. If we don't test at all we will have no illnesses and no deaths by trumps theory.
It gives people a way to look at it in such a way as to dismiss that these statistics are on actual people, who are dying all around America, right now. Diminishing those deaths doesn't make their point any stronger...
you can get a flu shot every season...not a covid 19 shot..that's where the comparison stops in it's tracks for me.....I had the flu at Xmas...didn't kill me, pretty sure with my heart disease covid 19 will kill me...it's a lot more deadly than the flu I had from all studies I've read so far...and according to my friend who is a biotechnician in Taiwan studying the stuff....she says this is way worse than the flu we have seasonally and much worse than SARS....also much more contagious
Are they tho? As I said a couple weeks ago. Intel Ronler Acers campus had 2 confirmed cases of Covid19. They tracked it to a on site taco truck. This taco truck serves FAR more daily people than just two people. Hell I've been told at times it's a 45 minute wait in line. Intel ronler acers still only has two confirmed cases of Covid19. With how infectious Covid19 is. Is it logical to believe this campus only had two cases of Covid19? Or is it logical to believe many people at this site were asymptomatic, thought it was allergies, or didn't get a high enough dose to notice anything. I'm not trying to frame this in a way that counters the points made health officials. But at some point people have to stop thinking like sheep and be open to other possibilities. Then who are we testing? We're only testing people with symptoms. Not testing everyone whos come in contact with it.
