Well, I would definitely be on board for getting Parker if we could keep our top 4 (assuming you mean Roy, LMA, Batum and Oden). That would be a no-brainer. Keeping Roy, LMA and Oden while giving up Batum for CP3 is a no-brainer. I just think the second no-brainer is an even no-brainier no-brainer than the first no-brainer.
Jesus christ you big girl, I misinterpreted your post. Not sure it's something to throw your undies around the room about. You might also notice the majority of threads are INDEED about things that have happened. I think you'll find my interest in "Hey guys what about this trade idea." threads is somewhere around nil. As far as this thread goes, talking about completing a trade that already almost happened once is nowhere near your "what if then what if" "proposal." Nobody on here thinks Roy is shipping out in any way shape or form due to CP but carry on with your "interesting" idea. Here's one for you. Who's the better combo: Paul Molitor and Greg Oden or Robin Yount and Chris Paul. Really makes you think huh?
First of all, I will disregard the name calling. You could have said, sorry, I misinterpreted your post to begin with rather than, "maybe I was confused why someone would want to have a long conversation about something that will never happen." The original poster said in regards to bringing in TP that people are forgetting superstars win championships. I interpreted that to mean TP was worthless to bring in because he is not a superstar. I basically put forth that Roy is on the team. I consider Roy to be just under superstar level. If he was on an East Coast team folks may already have elevated him to that status. IMO, Roy with TP, Batum, LMA, and Oden as supporting cast is a pretty good 5. The only reason I brought up shipping Roy out was to make the point, if superstars win championships and Roy isn't a superstar than you have to make Roy an asset that can be moved in order to secure a superstar. What about this thought process equals long conversation about something that will never happen? Honestly I think blowing me off and calling me a little girl is a little over-reactive, but you go ahead and portray whatever maturity level you choose, I'm here just to talk basketball.
Except for one problem - kind of a big one too: Said superstar himself has already mentioned that he wouldn't want to go to Portland if Roy had to be traded for him. Paul said, "what's the point". Paul wants to be on a superteam. He wants to win. You trade him for Batum and cap relief and eating nasty contracts - fine. He could be on board coming to Portland. You trade him for Roy and he refuses to sign an extension. Whats the point?
Well, just to clarify, I am not talking about trading Roy for CP3, just saying if fans don't think Roy is a superstar and you have to have a superstar to win a championship than you have to entertain the thought of trading Roy to get a superstar. If you were going to trade Roy for a superstar than it wouldn't just be Paul you are considering. You know, just forget the Roy thing. I was making a point. Personally I like Roy as much as I like Paul Pierce, is he a superstar? I like Roy as much as Carmello Anthony, is he a superstar? I think Roy is only a little below Wade. In fact, I don't know that I would trade Roy for Wade straight up, but then I am a homer. I still think Oden has the chance of being a big deal. I think that if you pick up TP for bit players, you still give yourself a chance at a championship with that roster.
Have you seen your posts? Anyway, I've already admitted I was throughly confused by the first post I responded to. I still am to be honest. Roy does not and never has to be a piece in the Chris Paul coming to Portland puzzle. I'll never ever ever understand what it is your saying or what the point of it is I guess. Carry on.
Something from Chad Ford's Free Agents of '11 article (Insider): http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=TopFreeAgents2011
The trades we're all discussing prove this to be 100% false though. That's why I can't for the life of me figure out what the point you are trying to make is. OK how about this. I as a poster on this internet forum would entertain offers for Brandon Roy. There's probably only 15 players better than him on the planet. If you asked if I wanted to trade him for one, I would "entertain" it. Have you won now or something? Have I? Does this mean I've just completed a trade? Are we closer to a championship now?
Some people have to insult others rather then debate basketball. It's annoying, but I try and ignore it. Just because someone says something I WILDLY disagree with I usually don't stop reading them or resort to name calling. I do have a couple of people blocked though because they are just so damn negative my eyeballs bleed.
Well, my posts are probably not the most well-written, I will give that to you. I am not looking for anyone to admit that they are willing to trade Roy. Maybe you didn't read the post I responded to. My interprtation of their point is: "Trading bit pieces for TP is useless since he is not a superstar and everyone knows superstars win championships." The point I was trying to make was TP with our current top 4 (Roy, Batum, LMA, and Oden) may be a good enough lineup to put us over the top with Roy being our superstar and Oden being injury free. The secondary point was: "If you don't consider Roy a superstar, than by the reasoning that it takes superstars to win championships (which I don't necessarily ascribe to because I think if Roy led us to a championship, it would in turn elevate him to a bonafide superstar - but I digress), so if Roy isn't a superstar in that posters mind, then you shouldn't have a problem trading him for the 9-15 guys that are supposed to better than him". If that didn't clarify what I was trying to say, than I am sorry. Seriously I am, I could be going brain dead or living in an alternate universe, my house is hot so I don't know... I don't hang out on message boards becuase of the trolls, but when I do, this place rocks... PS - Sorry for the confusion...
Are you referring to where you quoted me? If so, I never claimed that "trading bit pieces for TP is useless". I claimed that TP+Batum (2 good players) is not as desirable as CP3 (an absolute superstar).
Which is why I said, that is how I interpretted it. Isn't that how a forum works? You hadn't clarified that you meant something else. So, that is how I took it. With above being your clarification, I agree that TP and Batum isn't as desirable as CP3. My feeling is that I would rather get TP, if he doesn't cost us Batum or Oden, than getting CP3 if he costs us both Oden and Batum - just for clarification I said both Oden and Batum going to NO in the same trade for Chris Paul. BTW - didn't mean to interpret the intent of your post...
