Crabbe looks to be plan B for the Nets (because they are afraid POR will match): http://nypost.com/2016/07/05/why-nets-will-be-big-winners-if-dwyane-wade-sticks-with-heat/
Is he just a "back up player", or is he our third best scorer? If given 32 mpg (not necessarily unreasonable) as a 2nd scoring option, could he put up 17 ppg, with solid defense? If so, is that not worth $17M out of a $100M salary, even if he starts the game on the bench?
My take is that Turner does everything better than Crabbe except shoot 3 pointers. Shooting 3 pointers IS a big deal, and Crabbe is a versatile player and one of our better defenders. That said, I don't think the two are competing for the same minutes. I'm sure they'll be on the floor at the same time a lot.
I also wonder if we can sign Crabbe to a decent deal then perhaps at some point in the next 3-6 months we could include him in a package to Philly for Noel or Okafor, therefore keeping CJ
As long as Stotts gives Lillard too many minutes, we will never know. (I know. Lillard and Crabbe don't play the same position. But McCollum's minutes are added at one and subtracted at the other position.)
He has not proved reliable enough to be considered our third best scorer. Is the potential there, perhaps. But at this stage no.
I like AC, but he does very little outside of shooting and scoring. He might become a consistent 15-18 ppg scorer eventually, but he needs that shot created for him as his handle is suspect. 77% of his 2pt makes last season were assisted. 96% of his 3pt makes were assisted. His defense has improved but he still fouls too much and reaches when he shouldn't. He's not a true 3 and D guy. And his versatility is also overstated-- he's a SG, with prototypical SG size, but not the strength or length to switch onto bigger SFs like Kawhi, Lebron, KD, etc. And he lacks the quickness to guard PGs. If you recall, we didn't put Crabbe on CP in the playoffs -- we put Hark on him. I would hate to lose an asset for nothing in return given how much we desperately need talent, but if there are better C options that open up in a S&T, we shouldn't hesitate to move on.
Wait 3 days and see...this could just be a smokescreen or an option that leads to cap space for another deal...I think what folks haven't really focused on is a players role on a team....lot of bench players see an opportunity to start...I think Henderson and Crabbe wanted that at this point in their career. Crabbe is a fine role player but not a game changer. He improved in areas. Nice guy...a little passive for my taste...he'll never get ejected from a game probably or collect a tech foul
oh stop...you just like baiting sometimes JFizz....fans watch players on youtube whenever they are in any way rumored to become blazers...I watched a lot of film on Turner when we made the offer to him...he's better than Crabbe IMO....but you don't value my opinion so that's not my problem..are you some kind of expert NBA talent scout with a backstage pass or something?
Letting Crabbe walk could also indicate that they think Montero will get his bench time....I think Montero's upside is better than Crabbe's if he gets a shot
Montero has more natural skills to be sure but can he break out of that 'raw' level where he currently resides? His shot, handle and passing ability are on par with Crabbe or significantly better but he's yet to get the experience to see if he can put those skills to use in a meaningful NBA game.
Not at all. I just get annoyed of the mega homers. At the end of the day, you and i just think differently and thats ok. Im an analytics guys as im an accountant. Youre more a creative type. We just wont see much eye to eye. Btw, the only baiting i enjoy doing is of the masturbatory type.
I hope so...I really like Montero's skills...I suspect Stotts will add him to the bench mob if Crabbe signs elsewhere
Again, it's not like we just started talking about Turner this week. It has been an on and off discussion since he was drafted. You act like we only like him now, because we got him.
Crabbe is very misleading in that regard, you look at the stats and you think he is just someone who stands in the corner and waits for an open shot. Crabbe has become way more than that, he stands out as a guy who runs through screens and then knocks down shots at a high percentage, he's reminding me of a poor-man's Rip Hamilton and this was only his first year playing major minutes under a meaningful role.
