We're all Blazer fans, whether we love to crunch numbers and compare stats or just enjoy watching the games and rooting for OUR guys. (Well, at least most of us are. There are a few who post here who make you wonder.) That said, I think that it would take some of the tension between the "mega homers" and the "analytical realists" down a notch if Denny would add a feature to the board so that every reply began with something like, "I know I may be overstating my case since I don't really know as much as I like to let on, but here's what I'm thinking:".
Who is "we?" Some of you i remember liking him when he was drafted. Some even compared him to brandon roy. I have no problem if you like him. There are also posters around here that i cant say that for that now think he is gonna be a difference maker for us. Perhaps. And some that have stated they dont watch other teams period. Im just not ready to say that about him until i see him on the court. I dont mind turner, there are various things that just turn me off to the signing.
LOL, that statement would basically apply to everybody. I dont know more than the next guy im sure, but ive been obsessed with basketball since i could read box scores (age of 3) and since ive watched basketball every year of my life since then, ive formed my opinions just like everyone else. So of course i think others will be wrong, and others will think im wrong. This is a forum for chrissakes.
Something you guys need to understand is i just have high expectations. Im not ok with mediocrity. I WANT to be proven wrong. And if Turner ends up being a stud for us ill be right there with you cheering my ass off and buying his jersey. Ill even take it like a good sport if you flip me shit on my wrong prediction.
There's a reason people liken him to Roy. I don't think he's at all the all-star level player Roy was, but he fills up the score sheet in a similar manner. Roy per 36 career: Turner per 36 career: Rebounds, assists, steals roughly the same. FG% and 3pt% and FTA and FGA advantage Roy. Turner is 6'7" 220lbs Roy was 6'6" 216lbs On defense, FWIW, Roy's career DRtg is 110, best was 109. Turner's career 105, best 99.
Roy was a bad defender, who got really bad his last couple years, probably due to energy conservation and mobility loss. I understand the comparisons, they both had old man games to them with sneaky athleticism. I just think turner is a poor mans roy. Thats ok. I hope he ends up being great for us.
The only reason why we would match anything beyond $11M-$12M for Crabbe would be to immediately trade him or use him as a trade bait at some point during season, before CJ re-signs. There is absolutely zero point paying $15M a year or more to a back up SG/SF when your backcourt costs you $50M+ a year and you have three small forwards better than him. He would fetch us someone good in a trade and it doesn't have to be immediately so you could use him with other players during season. If we could get Noel or Okafor in return I'd be over the moon. Not matching would be pointless though. We'd lose a good trade asset. Beyond $15M he might be tough to move though.
When did this happen? Turner, aminu and harkless are all better than crabbe? Its just that easy? I disagree. I dont think its that black and white. I think crabbe amongst the league might have the highest value of those 4 players contracts aside (because with contracts its gonna be aminu)
See link above from me. If you guys don't want the Nets to throw a big contract at Crabbe then you better hope Wade goes back to MIA so they in turn don't match on Tyler Johnson. Doesn't look like it is happening now though. He is picking CHI if they can unload some contracts. So contract could be coming Crabbe's way soon from a team.
Update on Crabbe (kind of): http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/7/6/12115074/does-dwyane-wade-to-chicago-mean-no-tyler-johnson
So what happened.... the rumor on opening night was 4 years, 70 million. Then a few days went by.... and now this..... why the delay?
