Crabbe gonna get paid!

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  1. BonesJones

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    I think the consensus across the nation is that he's a below average defender...
     
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    Still just a 12.9 PER (not the be all and end all, but still), and sometimes 3-D guys get overpaid (Danny Green). I'd still want to match, just for the sake of not losing an asset, but unless he takes another developmental jump, whatever he gets this summer will likely be an overpay in comparison to what he actually contributes to this team.
     
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    Here are some comparable players and contracts:

    Terrence Ross -- 3yrs, 33 mil
    Jeremy Lamb -- 3yrs, 21 mil
    Jae Crowder -- 5yrs, 35 mil (he blew up this year)
    Alec Burks -- 4yrs, 42 mil
    JR Smith -- 2yrs, 20 mil
    Shumpert -- 4yrs, 40 mil
    Danny Green, 4yrs, 40 mil

    I don't think 10-12 mil/yr is all that bad given what his comparisons get. That's what... an 8th of the new cap? Crabbe is a top 5-6 level player on a good team, so it's not all that bad.
     
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    Crowder is the ONLY player on that list that is worth the money he's being paid.
     
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    True. But I kinda see Crabbe having that Crowder potential on the wing. Ainge got a steal on that one.
     
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    No.

    Trade Gerald. Pay Crabbe.
     
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    Is Crabbe even a good defender though? I don't see it as much as you guys do. He's a decent defender and a solid offensive player. That doesn't say $12M to me.

    I think we need to trade him and Meyers at the deadline. They're gonna get overpaid which is a lose-lose scenario. Either we get stuck with with bad contracts for years or we lose them for nothing.
     
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    decent defender- has a penchant for getting in the passing lanes, sub par in isolation, not great in the PnR. Can get lost at times and float/lose track of his man. Has a ridiculous wing span, gets a lot of deflections- has the potential to be a solid-good defender. Doesn't have the athleticism to be an elite defender strength and/or speed.

    If you wanted me to put a sticker price on what he's worth, $10m because he's 23 and there's still potential, particularly on the offensive side. Defensively I feel it's just time/experience for him to pick up some nuances. But he'll probably command 12-14m b/c of the competition for his services.

    I will be surprised if both Meyers and Crabbe are here post AS break unless something bigger happens.
     
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    Paying for potential can get tricky and burn you. I think Crabbe, Meyers, and filler (picks?) might be enough to get Rudy Gay to bring off the bench. And the thing is, Meyers+Crabbe will be making more than Gay next year, so we will save cap space. We'd just need one big signing (Preferably Horford) to fill out a very solid playoff team, but we'd also still have more cap space leftover.
     
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    If Crabbe is willing to accept 30 minutes a night as our 6th man, Id give him 4/40. He is what a 6th man should be in my opinion. frantic defense with a great outside shot. He is worth it and we have the money. We need a true 6th man, so why not? Who else are you going to get that fits the bill for less money but of equal/upside talent?
     
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    Id like to add, that money will have to be spent if we are to contend. Crabbe knows the system and fits in well, why trade him to pay someone else the same that doesn't know the system and might not fit?
     
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    $15M per year for a 6th man? Hell no
     
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    I typoed. In another thread I said 40/4. 10 m,ill a year. Sorry, I will fix now.
     
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    Rounders. Nice.
     
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