Dame all but demanding vet roster

No. He did define what the conversation was.

"We got an opportunity asset wise to build a team that can compete. That would be the number one thing, but if we can't do that, obviously like I said for months now, then there would be a separate conversation that we would have to have. We have to let things take their course."

"I'm not a fool. I'm not crazy. I love the organization that I play for, I love the city that I live in, and I'm going to give them every opportunity to give me... give us what we need to have a true chance to compete for that. If that's something that isn't possible, or something that can't get done, then we got a different conversation to be had."

Dame said that he believes the team has the assets to build a team that can compete. Those assets being the draft pick, maybe Simons, maybe Sharpe. I don't know what he thinks the assets are, but he clearly states that he thinks we have what it takes to go get pieces to compete right now. But if the team can't use those assets to build a team that can compete, a separate conversation would have to be had. What do you think that conversation would be?

 

First, I don't care if I'm bothering you. I don't care if I'm making this place insufferable for you. I come on here to share my opinions. If you don't like it, block me.

Second, if someone disagrees with me, I'm going to debate them. I don't know why some of you have to back out of the conversation and start talking about me, or your feelings. I really couldn't care less about your feelings. I come on here to talk basketball.

You have yet to really SAY anything to counter my view, just that I'm wrong. And when I ask you, or PC or anyone else to provide some hard evidence that proves me wrong, you whine about me and my posting style.

 

For fucks sake.

You are right. You are the ONLY one who is correctly hearing what Dame means and only you know what he thinks. It makes you absolutely right and everyone else is a fool.

Satisfied now?

No?, what else will it take for you to not counter everyone else with a different opinion than yours?

Pages and pages of you in so many threads telling everyone else thier opinion is wrong and yours is right…

take a break man….

please?????

 

Whatever you say Nate…..you only read what you want. Thats clearer than anything Dame has said.

 

The point I guess is why not both?
Depth.

 

Uhh because you leave no room for a debate? Its your opinion or your wrong. Everyone is giving up on discussing this with you because you…

never mind. Ive given up too. Maybe one day you will see it. I know im blind to things at times…

 

"Don't Let Me Down" (Cronin trade song)

"Come Together!" (sure not the S2 theme song)

" All Things Must Pass" (for the trade-Dame crowd)

"Carry That Weight" (Dame's theme song in the Stotts/Olshey era)

"8 Days a Week" (how often arguments break out on S2)

" The Fool on a Hill" (olshey waiting for valet service)

" Got to Get You Into My Life" (Dame waiting for another all-star)

"Hello, Goodbye" (Joe Ingles career in Portland, Pau's too)

"I Me Mine" (CJ with the ball)

" I'm A Loser" (nice knowing ya Mr. Whiteside)

"Junk" (Nurkic shooting at the rim)

"Taxman" (kryptonite to the Vulcans)

"Things We said Today" (Dame interview)

"We Can Work It Out" (Dame vs Cronin)

"You Can't Do That" (trade Dame before July 10)

 

I think there is a limit on how many players on the bench chip paint off the rims. I'm thinking one

 

He didn't mince words. I don't understand why you guys are fighting so hard on this. These aren't one of Dame's cryptic IG posts.

He sat down TWICE and said, for all intents and purposes, the same thing. Plain as day. Use your assets to put together a team that can compete, or we're going to have a different conversation. You're right, I'm hammering on this because I don't understand how anyone can see those clear fucking statements and think he meant anything else. Instead, you guys just say that I'm wrong and cite actions or words that disprove my "interpretation" and then don't post them. And then you get pissed when I ask you to post them.

I'm going to use the words directly from the source to counter people's opinions. If that seems repetitive, it's because people keep posting things that counter to what the man said himself. If you don't want those quotes thrown in your face, don't post things that would be counter to what Dame said.

 

1. There are players Dame would’ve wanted to see on the team last year — Vanderbilt, OG
2. There are players — if Dame was traded — that he’d like to play with and therefore their current team IF said teams still could compete after a trade — Bam and Bridges.
3. There are players who have expressed to Dame that they’d like to play with him in Portland — Bridges, Brown are 2 — these have been said by those who have some inside access.

1. Dame wants to compete in the playoffs with a real chance.
2. Cronin wants to build around Dame.
3. Most all (19-year-old) rookies don’t help a team compete right away. Take that asset away and there are lesser assets to get the help they need, and that list of lesser trade assets is short.

In other words, draft and keep 3 likely leads to that other conversation … AND the team trades Dame by the trade deadline … which IMHO is waiting too long (due to risks) should they keep the 3. NateBishop3 and I may want very different pre-season outcomes, but maintaining the 2 timelines is IMHO the worst of 3 options — Unless Bridges, Siakam, Brown or OG comes for Simons, any filler, and future picks … well, that’s what options 1 and 2 are for.

 

Fine. I guess I have to break it down barney style for you.

Saying "we need to have a conversation" is different from saying "we need to have a different conversation" because a different conversation implies that you're already having a conversation. Would you not agree?

The current conversation being the one about how to improve the team using the assets that we have. If the team is unable to, or unwilling to, use those assets that Dame mentions to improve the team, the different conversation would seem to indicate exploring a trade out of Portland.

This is basically exactly what Haynes said yesterday.

 

Some people cant just agree to disagree and instead drill things so hard its annoying…and then they state they don't care they are being annoying, but cant understand why everyone is giving up the discussion with said person.

hmm…improving self awareness is always a good thing… if one is capable…

 

actually, he did mince his words; and clarified why he was mincing; and he has minced plenty before. Dame minces words, all the time, like everybody alive does. Most of us just don't have microphones stuck in out face

 

Dame says he will ~'be a Blazer to start the season.'

IIUC, Dame can't be traded till July 10. The 2023/24 season starts July 1. Therefore....

Dame will be a Blazer to start the season.

There. Clear as can be.

 

But.... I don't care?

I don't care if you leave the conversation. Do it at your leisure.

 

You're still talking about Brooklyn and Miami.

I'm talking about his statements about what he expects from the team and what will happen if we don't do what he expects. Those are different topics. I don't think he minced his words at all about what he expects. If I'm wrong, I welcome some evidence to the contrary.

 

will Lillard pull a KAT, milk an injury, and wait for a deadline or next summer trade?

We all know Damian is one of the top competitors in the NBA, but if Portland's continued goal is to lose games and draft the best rookies... why is Lillard here?

 

Said my piece and am not going to get pulled onto a secret sidequest by you like the other day just so you can try to deflect from your poor position. I don't need to help you bury your bad takes and pollute the board and make other posters miserable in the process.

I will say this, though, Nate: It's amusing watching you dance back and forth between Mr. Take Every Letter Literally and This Is What Dame Meant Without Saying It from one post to the next as it suits you.

 

It's possible. It could also be that he'd want to know what the next steps forward would be to building a contending team come the trade deadline, etc.

I'm not comfortable saying definitively that if the Blazers use the #3 pick, that Dame will demand a trade. It could happen though. Dame hasn't said either way.

 

Because some of what Dame said is plain as day. He was extremely clear. He was very literal.

Some of it was vague.

But you have yet to post anything that counters my opinions. You claim evidence exists, but you don't post it. And when I called you out and asked you to deliver, you did not. You just ignored it.