What does this mean for Scoots chances to upset Wenbenyama for ROY? Gotta think he’s about to definitely become Wenbenyama’s toughest competition for it.
People use the word “lie” way too easily. Sometimes plans just don’t work out, or something changes that makes the plan need to be adjusted. Getting the guy who’s possibly the second best talent in the draft changes the equation from what was thought before the lottery and draft. The asset value of the pick goes way up, as does the value to the Blazers of a very talented young player on a cheap rookie contract. Other teams know Joe is up against the wall with Dame and low ball their offers for the pick, or simply don’t have or don’t want to part with the assets required to obtain the pick. Not giving away a valuable asset at a low ball price is not a lie; it’s a change in circumstances.
Joe should play this like the following situations: During the Cold War, the United States discovered that the Soviet Union was secretly deploying nuclear missiles in Cuba. The Soviet Union's leader, Nikita Khrushchev, demanded that the U.S. remove its missiles from Turkey in exchange for the removal of Soviet missiles from Cuba. However, President John F. Kennedy refused to give in to the demand, calling Khrushchev's bluff and imposing a naval blockade around Cuba.. In the world of professional yo-yoing, there is a subculture dedicated to "yo-yo poker." This unusual variation combines yo-yo tricks with the mechanics of poker, where players attempt to bluff their opponents by executing complex tricks or misdirections during gameplay, adding an unpredictable element to the game. Joe needs to call Dame's bluff. After World War I, Germany was presented with the Treaty of Versailles, which included severe economic reparations and territorial losses. The German government initially demanded significant changes to the treaty, hoping to negotiate more favorable terms. However, the Allied powers, led by France, refused to back down and called Germany's bluff, maintaining their position. The result was a harsh treaty that ultimately placed the burden of responsibility for the war squarely on Germany, contributing to future political tensions and setting the stage for World War II.
Exactly. He wants to move on and I don't see any reason to badmouth the guy. Good luck to him and we focus on making sure we have as competitive a team next season without him as we can. I cheer for the team not individual players.
Dame letting it be known publically that he wants to win shouldn't be a big deal. Of course he wants to win. What soon to be 33 year old superstar wouldn't? Why would Dame stating that make is so that good offers that would be on the table disappear? It shpuld be common knowledge around league circles that star players want to win... out a team likes a deal for themselves, I have a hard time seeing them not do a deal they want because the Blazers are in a tough spot and Dame wants to win. So if you people want to think there were never good offers on the table, fine. But to act like Dame sabotaged what would've been on the table doesn't make sense to me.
End of a era. We had to move on from Dame. Just please not the heat. I hate their fans with a passion. Joe and oshley couldn't couldn't get the man any help.
I'm as big of a fan of Dame as they come. And this is hitting hard. But if it's true that Dame is pushing for Miami, it's hard to take his previous statements about not wanting to go the easy route really lose a lot of credibility. Joining the eastern conference champs that fell short of a ring isn't exactly grind... No matter how you slice it. Maybe Dame has issues with one or more people in the Blazers organization. Maybe he wants the tax break. Maybe he decided after all these years that a ring is necessary for him to feel accomplished. Maybe Cronin told him we're not going to build around him ever. Maybe he was pissed at being forced to sit the last month of a career year. I don't think we'll ever know. But wanting to go to Miami really sours an already crappy situation. I really believed his dedication was to the city and the franchise up until this year. Hard to see it that way right now. He gave us a ton, and I've enjoyed the hell out of Dame as a Blazer. I wish it wasn't coming to an end. But I don't really see the loyalty to the franchise/fans. Ultimately, he wants the ring. Fair enough.
And he was loyal, he was loyal when everyone was telling him he should leave. He was loyal for 11 seasons. If you go back and watch the interview on Showtime that he did when he said he wanted to have veterans around him to help win now and not youth, he said something else that was really important. Dame said that he wasn't stupid, implying that if he asked for this and it wasn't done that it would make him look stupid. That's the point it had gotten to, he'd listened to management tell him what he wanted to hear and do something else so many times that it had gotten to the point where they were making him feel stupid. So I guess do you think it's fair to hold him to this ridiculous standard of absolute loyalty no matter what or let the man keep his self respect after being told one thing and having another thing done for around the past six years?
You have no idea what happened behind the scenes Torrie. Dame could've been a drama queen for years for all you know. Maybe Dame gave some assurances once he got the quarter of a billion deal that he wouldn't pull this shit. Maybe he's letting his teammates down. This could be very similar to the situation when Sgt. Slaughter turned his back on his American patriotism and became an Iraqi sympathizer during the Gulf War, betraying his fans and embodying a villainous character aligned with Iraq.
I seriously have no clue how you can't see him saying "I don't want to play with 19 year olds" and "I want to play in Miami" isn't completely sabotaging the blazers, I don't know what to say. You make great graphics, though.
the only person who put winning pressure on Cronin, was a guy named Joe Cronin. Joe Cronin told fans and Lillard countless times he wanted to make winning moves to improve the team. Meanwhile the other Joe Cronin was trading good Blazers for literally nothing at all. Joe Cronin tried to build a crummy team that would struggle to win and fall into the lottery. Lillard is so freaking good at basketball, he dang near got an undersized Blazer team lacking depth at every position into the playoffs. Joe Cronin pulled the plug, made bad trades, put his foot down and said "ya'll ain't winning no more this season". Lillard has had enough of this garbage. Damian is a spectacular competitor. Losing on purpose, throwing in the towel, accepting defeat, these are not things Damian Lillard has built his career around.
