Dame in Milwaukee thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by illmatic99, Sep 29, 2023.

  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    for sure Dame, because Oden never really was, and Portland had more than a decade to build a contender around Dame but never really tried
     
  2. Phatguysrule

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    I have no regrets about Dame. Our franchise screwed that up. He did all he could.

    But really, I think Oden did all he could as well.

    But we got a ton of joy out of Dame.
     
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    Dame will be Dame
     
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    I wonder how much of the team building problem was that Dame wanted ‘his guys’ on the team but his guys kinda sucked. Then you’re stuck with CJ and a bunch of inefficient wings and you can’t trade any of that for gold.
     
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    How dare you suggest the Blevins sucked!
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    We will never know how much of the CJ love was Neil and how much was Dame.
     
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    Management has to overcome that
     
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    I have no doubt it was on Olshey as much as Dame.
     
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    Dame didn't squawk at all when Cronin traded CJ. Dame didn't have much to say when his good friends Will Barton and Mason Plumlee were traded either

    I'm about 97% convinced the 'Dame-was-the-shadow-GM' narrative was bullshit floated by Olshey and Olshey apologists to cover for Olshey's ineffectiveness as the GM

    Dame didn't tell Olshey to make max contract offers to Roy Hibbert, Enes Kanter, Greg Monroe, and Chandler Parsons. Dame didn't tell Olshey to spend 340M in 2016 for CJ's extension, match Crabbe's offer sheet, bid against himself for Evan Turner, give 41M to Meyers Leonard, and sign an injured Festus Ezeli. Dame didn't tell Olshey to essentially spend SEVEN 1st round picks on Arron Afflalo, Zach Collins, Caleb Swanigan, RoCo, and Nance. Dame didn't tell Olshey to trade for Nance when he could have just traded for Lauri Markkanen instead. Dame didn't tell Olshey to lock up and encumber 7 years of first round picks for same said Nance. Dame didn't tell Olshey to dump Kanter, Ed Davis, Aminu, Harkless, Turner, Layman and Meyers off a WCF team and replace them with Whiteside, Bazemore, Hezonja, and Tolliver. Dame didn't tell Olshey to basically force the Blazers to go with Norm Powell at SF and trot out a 6'2-6'3-6'3-Melo starting lineup

    Olshey's consistent and constant ego-blind incompetence and GM-malpractice was demonstrated for a decade. And his hubris and arrogance were demonstrated as well, maybe even more thoroughly. The notion that Dame convinced Olshey to do anything he wasn't going to do anyway is not credible
     
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    8 point run by Blevins toppled the Lakers 2 years ago. It was mostly airballs from Keljin in the games that followed, but being a "Laker Killer" has a permanent stamp in Rose City.

     
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    Olshey let Aldridge walk right out the door. No picks, no nothing. Good bye former Blazers All-Star. Neil's brilliant idea to replace LaMarcus was make Noah Vonleh the starting PF.
    Let's check some stats:
    -Vonleh 3.6pts/3.9reb
    hmmm, those don't match L-Train stats
     
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    if only Miami had drafted him; their management is so much better than ours
     
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    Honestly, yeah. Riley and Spoelstra would have almost certainly gotten a title or two out of Dame, IMO.
     
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    He should have been fired right then, IMO.
     
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    I’ll admit, I thought we had our next Jermaine O’Neal

    I was hot on vonleh. Boy was I wrong.
     
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    It was all on Olshey because if Dame really was adamant about keeping players around him that we couldn't win with, Olshey was the GM at the end of the day and could just tell Dame he was going to build a championship roster around Dame or move Dame so he could build a championship roster without him.

    I don't think Dame ever vetoed a trade and if he did whoever gave him the power to do so is a dumbass.
     
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    Agreed
     
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