That makes no sense. Clooney has never been one of three best actors in the world. He has 2 Oscars. One for supporting, one for producing. Giannis has 2 MVPs, 1 DPOY, and 1 Finals MVP. Giannis is better than DeNiro in that analogy. And I love DeNiro. Let’s stick to basketball.
None. He can’t defend and he’s not as good a player when he’s not taking all the shots. Plays better when Giannis doesn’t. Jrue is more complimentary. I don’t think Boston wins last year if it’s Dame instead of Jrue.
wow...such completely unsupported and unprovable logic has convinced me...thanks for the enlightenment using your NBA championship logic I now know that: Steve Kerr was better then John Stockton or Allen Iverson or Gary Payton or Terry Porter or Kevin Johnson or Fat Lever Robert Horry was better than Charles Barkely or Buck Williams or Bernard King or Tom Chambers Byron Scott was better than Anfernee Hardaway or Clyde Drexler or Grant Hill or Reggie Miller or George Gervin Bobby Portis is better than Karl Malone or Dominiqe Wilkins or Alonzo Mourning Kevon Looney is better than Domantas Sabonis, or his father, or Bam Adebayo, or KAT, or Embiid
Big Shot Bob hit big shots. Like, he has rings because he hit shots. The others make sense but this one has some truth to it. Chuck, Buck, and Tom all missed big shots or free throws that cost their teams. I wasn't around for Bernard King's heyday, but there's a reason Robert Horry has rings with multiple teams, he's demonstrably part of that.
c'mon now...a lot of players have hit big shots, including Dame. Horry was just in a position to hit bigger shots on a larger stage. But it wasn't his talent that was primary in getting his team to that larger stage. * in Houston, it was the talent of Hakeem, Mawell, Thorpe, Smith, and Drexler. (Horry averaged about 11 & 5 during Houston's 2 championships). * And in LA it was Shaq, Kobe, Rice, Fisher (Horry averaged about 7.5 & 5 during the Lakers' threepeat and was part of a supporting group that had Rick Fox, Brian Shaw, and Ron Harper). * and obviously, for the Spurs, it was the big-3 of Duncan, Parker and Ginobli. Horry was just one part of a supporting cast that included Bruce, Bowen, Brent Barry, Nazr Mohammed, and Oberto. He only averaged 5 & 4 when he collected his 7th ring. Horry didn't have elite talent, just elite timing that's not to say he didn't play important roles on those teams. But that's the point, he was just a role player, he was never the 3rd best and often not the 4th best player on those teams. Which was what I was getting at in the Dame vs Jrue debate. Granted, Jrue is a very high level role player and was clearly the 3rd best player on the Bucks title team. During the playoffs, Giannis averaged 30 -13 - 5 and Middleton averaged 24 - 8- 5, while Jrue was 17 - 6 - 9. For the Celtics, it may have been that White was the 3rd best player, and Jrue 4th best whatshisname was arguing that Jrue had the type of talent integral to playoff success and Dame didn't. But Jrue had his first 11 seasons while swimming in the wakes of Giannis & Middleton & Tatum & Brown. He spent 7 years in New Orleans alongside AD; most of the time as the 2nd best player. Yet, in his first 11 seasons he appeared in 30 playoff games. Dame, in his first 9 seasons appeared in 61 playoff games; more than twice as many in 2 fewer seasons. (Apparently, Jrue's critical playoff talent didn't kick in until he was playing with 2 all-stars instead of 1). And we know around here that it was Dame's talent that carried Portland into the playoffs for for 8 straight seasons. When Dame was in his prime, he had CJ and Nurkic. Jrue had Giannis and Middleton; or Tatum and Brown
like Bruce Bowen and Michael Cooper and Shane Battier and Tayshaun Prince? add Horry to that quartet and count the all-star games for all 5 in a combined 68 seasons. Hint: it's less than 1. I'd think elite talent would get an all-star appearance with that many tries. At least Bowen, Cooper, Prince and Battier combined for 22 all-defensive awards.
I would think that Robert Horry might be on that list but the reason he likely isn't is because he isn't a three level scorer, with an elite handle... that would just make any 3 and D guy a superstar two way player. Anyone who is considered 3 and D is considered that because their offensive game is very limited and therefore they can only be counted on to consistently knock down set open jumpers and those are most valuable from beyond the arc.
All-Star weekend is a necessary break to a long ass season. Give the vets a break. Bring in the top NCAA players to play an "all-star" game against the NBA rookies. At halftime instead of music show the best and nastiest dunks so far in the NBA season on TV, let the fans vote in real time for the best dunk. That's it, that's your dunk champion. The best dunk in an actual NBA game, no gimmicks, no cars, no people holding balls. Do something similar for 3pt shot. Best, biggest clutch or shot from deep. That's it, that's the all-star weekend.
one of those players is not like the others. Only one player in that group never made an all-star game; never made an all-NBA team; never made an all-NBA defensive team it's the same player who never averaged more than 12 points, and only averaged double digit points 3 times in 16 years. For his career he averaged 7 pts; 5 rebs; 2 ast's while only shooting 42.5% FG's and 34.1% on three's the NBA average in PER and he never hit that mark; not once in 16 years, and his average was 13.4 His career average TS% is .520. The NBA average the last 3 seasons is around .575 to .580. Stacey Augmon had a higher career mark at .524 he was never an elite player; not close. He's on that list mainly because of 3 big shots in the playoffs. Well he was in 116 playoff games, shot the ball 1562 times including 728 three's...so he was due? I know he hit those big shots. And to his credit his efficiency increased in the playoffs; still doesn't make him elite. Or maybe it's that I have a stricter standard for 'elite'
