Dame playing through separated ribs...

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  1. hoopsjock

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    I didn't say we would've won. If you're playing a board game with a kid you can let them win or you can play it out normally. The kid can still win but he has to earn it legitimately. The defense we played was stupid and the equivalent of letting the kid win.

    Every single person that can analyze the game of basketball (including some of his own players) knew that strategy was not going to work.
     
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    "This just pisses me off even more that we just let them win game 1." hoopsjock

    If we let them win game one then it goes to reason that if we didn't "let them win" that we would have won. May not be what you meant to imply but that's how it read. :dunno:
    Your analogy wasn't really a representation of what went on in game 1. You can disagree with the strategy but Stotts wasn't allowing them to win the game like a parent might do with a kid.
     
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    I didnt read it that way. I read it how he intended it. Which makes sense because stotts is an inferior coach who rides the coattails of his star
     
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    and how did he intend it? Don't all coaches ride the coattails of their stars? Isn't Budenholzer riding the coattails of Giannis?
     
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    From the dawn of competitive team sports as we know it. Even owners of the slaves they used as Gladiators took and placed bets riding their best fighters.
     
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    Yeah, not sure what he was getting at with basically insinuating that Stotts only rides his star player. Who doesn't? GS just happens to have several all stars. Here is the total all star appearances of both teams:

    GS
    Thompson 5 time all star
    Curry 7 time all star and 2 x MVP
    Green 3 time all star
    Durant 10 time all star and 1 x MVP
    Cousins 4 time all star

    Plus numerous other awards like all nba team, all defensive, NBA finals MVP's etc.

    Blazers

    Lillard 4 time all star

    It's absurd how lopsided the awards are by GS compared to the Blazers but yet some think we should be up 3-0.
     
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    We should be up two to one though.
     
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    I don't know how much clearer I can spell it out for you. Sorry if you don't get it.
     
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    You really think your analogy is an accurate depiction of the 1st game? Like I said, don't confuse poor strategy with letting the other team win. Stotts and all the players wanted to win that game and if you don;t think so, then not sure what to tell you. Sorry, just not buying it.
     
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    How do you figure? It's a 48 minute game and they beat us and GS has made a living off of coming back from large deficits.
     
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    Let me put this in baseball terms for you...

    A team is in the AL or NL Championship Series with a chance at the pennant. The opposing team's best player is a home run hitter who feasts off of belt high fastballs right in the middle of the plate. Before the game the manager goes to the pitching staff and tells them that he wants them to only pitch belt high fast balls right down the middle to that player. After going 3-3 with 3 home runs on the 4th time at bat the pitchers ask the manager if he should throw something else. The manager says no, I want the belt high fastball still. Boom, another home run.

    After the game the manager is questioned why he didn't try to throw a curveball or a changeup or anything else other than letting him just mash home runs in his comfort zone. The manager gets snarky and says well I saw him hit two home runs off curveballs last week.

    That sounds completely exaggerated and made up but that is exactly what Stotts did! In the case of game 1 the strategy was so poor that it left very little chance to win the game. If your strategy will in all likelihood fail and everyone knows it then yes, you let the other team win. It was a disgrace.
     
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    Well, in my opinion its much harder to dig out of a hole than it is to hold onto a lead. When you are up double digits in a game and can maintain a lead until the fourth quarter and then ythe other teams takes the lead and wins in the fourth, its more about letting the other team win than it is getting beat.

    With that said, I do think GSW knows when to turn it on more than any other team we have seen in years, that being the middle of the third to the fourth, I still think we made more unforced errors that caused ourselves to beat ourselves than it was them 100% clamping down. I think its both, but I think if we would have maintained our good play, we would have won both of the games.

    I'm also on record as saying the unforced errors I think arfe in part due to hitting the fatigue wall in the second half.

    just my thoughts/ opinions Cup. Im sure not everyone agrees.
     
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    Just don't respond
     
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    Just don't engage certain people
     
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    Easier said than done for some. :notworthy2:
     
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    that's a given anyway....it's a tool just like a mute button on a remote....it's not a character flaw...sure cleans the windshield though
     
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    I like your analogy hj.
    Here's another:
    From what I've seen in the three games is that pitcher could be throwing 110mph curveballs made from hand grenades and the (Warriors) batter still parks them. In fact they hit the grenade so good , it doesn't have time to explode until hit lands in the parking lot.
    Stotts had a bum strategy fir sure..but I'm starting to believe it just doesn't matter..
    GS is just better and they only need 2 or 3 minutes to prove it.
     
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    This goes back to my original point of being more pissed to employ that bum strategy in Game 1. Dame hurt (or possibly re-aggravated) his ribs in the 2nd half of game 2. If we use a similar strategy as used in games 2 and 3 and have a less injured Dame do we possibly steal game 1? We'll never know the answer to that. Confidence is a tricky thing. If we win game 1 do we possibly have more swagger and not collapse in the 2nd half of the last two games? We'll never know that either.
     
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    Well, that's a completely different analogy whether exaggerated or not. I think we are going in two different angles and directions on this as my issue wasn't trying to claim the strategy was good and I know the phrase is often used "well, we gave that one away". My philosophy has been you can't give away what you don't have and GS has shown that they can beat us in pretty much any way regardless of the strategy. All in all, it's been a fun and exciting season and hopefully this team can continue to grow.

    Not that it matters or not or have anything to do with our discussion, but my take on the game last night was that the Warriors came out fast and hard to start the 3rd and we weren't able to counter as we became tentative and a bit scared because that's the kind of fear Golden State puts in an opponent and a good part why they have been so successful. We also ran into a team that appears to be gelling at the right time and look more like the champs than the team we saw in the regular season and earlier rounds of the playoffs. Our team has never been this far before and some fatigue could be hitting them as well both physically and mentally. Hopefully we learn something from this series and the season.
     
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    SEE??? Now, YOU are wasting my time. You did not even listen to what I said.....

    What don't you get about that asinine post of mine? Humm??? It's not a matter of not engaging them. I REFUSE to waste minutes of my precious time left on this planet, reading their bullshit. Pretty simple. Go ahead and waste your time. That's your decision....
     

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