Dame’s greatness

that's just ridiculous

how the hell does a salary he'll have 3 years from now impact the team Portland could assemble today, tomorrow, next summer or at any time in the 3 years before that salary kicks in? And just how is it you're able to gauge a salary in 2026 without knowing what the 2026 salary cap will be?

You can't gauge it...you just scrounging for ways to criticize Dame in one form or another. Dame is making 34.3% of the salary cap this season; the same as Giannis, Kawhi, and PG13. And less than Westbrook, Bradley Beal, & Durant

and just how the fuck does him making a max keep Portland from signing a top-15 player when they have never even signed a top-75 free agent in the CBA era? Just who is it that Dame's max salary will prevent Portland from landing in a trade? Over the last 5 seasons, just who is it that Dame's salary kept Portland from acquiring? They had opportunities to add PG13 or Jimmy Butler, but CJ was held untouchable. They've had opportunities to draft all-star level talent, but simply missed in the draft picks, or even worse have wasted 7 first round draft picks on Afflalo-Zach-Swanigan-RoCo-Nance. Dame's salary had nothing to do with any of that

Dame's next extension kicks in the season after all the new media contracts will be signed. It easily could be that Dame will be making less than a max salary at that time. I've seen suggestions it will be at least a 175M cap. That would put Dame's salary at 33% of the cap instead of 34%. We simply don't know what the math will be. I don't, you don't....but somehow you think you can forecast the future so well you can say that Dame's salary will be cock-blocking the Blazer front office. There is just no logic behind what you're saying

not only that, Dame has already taken one for the team. When he signed his rookie extension, he was entitled to 30% of the cap instead of 25%. He compromised and took 27.5% so Olshey had some wiggle room. And Olshey didn't do jack-shit except wiggle all over on guys like Chandler Parsons and Evan Turner and Crabbe and Ezeli. Dame learned his lesson

 

Twice. Blazers made it out of the first round in 2016.

 

Consider yourself thanked.

 

To be fair Brady’s wife made twice as much as him so money wasn’t a big concern. That said Brady cared more about winning and still gave up money

 

In the last 7 seasons. That was the 8th season ago. I believe someone said, first read, then post.

 

I figure this is a good place to put some of these graphs and charts that give a good visual of Dame's performance -

I'd say Dame is past his 'peak', but it's looking like a gradual arc down. He's got many amazing years ahead.



Greatest Blazer ever? He's got a good argument. That illusive championship, or finals appearance would probably close the discussion.

















The Blazers jersey should be the only jersey Dame ever wears.

 

I was looking at the career points list and thinking about where Dame would end up at the end of the season. I think he could catch Jamal Crawford if he remains hot and really torches people after the AS break.

 

I drew in my own line.

 

Excel has a feature that draws a trend line. I tried to be non-biased and use that. I like your trend line better.

 

Yah - He should be ~19,500 points by the end of the season... So somewhere between #62 and #57 on that list.

 

hahaha ... this whole post is comical! I'm not scrounging for reasons to criticize him, I'm saying things that I've said multiple times before. I do appreciate how him 'taking one for the team' is him taking 2.75% less or that with the new cap it would be 1% less ... really doing all he can to help the franchise win.

As for the 3 years down the line, you realize that these deals aren't done in a vaccum for just this season right? They have to make long term plans and fit salaries into the cap years down the line. Yea they are never getting a free agent all star to come to PDX but trades are where this team has to make their moves and you do that by having more cap room and taking on salaries other teams don't want.

I don't blame him for one minute taking all he can, in one respect he's doing the unselfish move as he is setting up generations upon generations of his family to enjoy his wealth. You could argue that by giving back that money he's being selfish in pursuit of winning a championship for himself, OR you can flip the whole thing around. Life is all about perspective and where you stand but when he says he's doing all he can for a title, sorry if we all know that's not right.

 

Where do we think Dame will finish the season on the all time scoring list?

 

Nevermind

 

ok...let's get at it another way since you explicitly said "he wouldn't have taken the super max extension" if he really wanted a championship

do you even know what the difference between a max extension and a super-max extension will be in 2025-26? I sure don't. The cap went up this season more than 11M from last season. Early projections of next season set the cap at 133-134M. The way-early projections of the 2025-26 cap are ranging in the 170-175M range after the new media deals (estimate is the broadcast rights alone will go up from the 24B deal in 2016 to 75B in 2025. And there will be an additional gold mine in streaming rights, including international rights). This assumes no smoothing which the player's union is strongly opposed to

if the cap is 170M, a max salary of 35% of the cap would be 61.3M. Dame will be getting 58.5M, so his "supermax" will actually be less than a max. If the cap is only 160M, his supermax would exceed the max by 2M. Yeah, that 2M should bring in another all-star, seeing as how it would be less than a vet minimum
deal

exactly how much less should Dame have taken, and which player, or at least what level of player would Dame's sacrifice have allowed Portland to acquire....and how exactly

maybe it's easier to apply your theory to last summer. Dame's salary is 42.5M. Portland had no chance at cap-space last summer. So they would have still been left with only the MLE for free agents. Dame making 10%, which would be 4.25M wouldn't have allowed the Blazers to do a damn thing. Nada...Zilch. But it would have been about a 17-18M sacrifice for Dame. As pointless as it would have been, would that have made you say "look at that, Dame really wants a championship"

would an extension of 50M/year satisfy your objection? That would be Dame sacrificing 20M in 2 years.

I did notice that you failed to explain how giving Dame less money would open up the option for building a contender.

 

30.1 ppg x 34 games = 1,023 points.
18,594 (current points) + 1,023 = 19,617
Budget a few games missed due to minor injuries.
Take off a few points since I think his average will come down a bit (no one can maintain this torrid pace!).

I think Dame will end up somewhere around 19,500 points at the end of the season. That would put him in the 57-Walter Davis / 58-Cliff Robinson range. Two ex-Blazers, both from the same 1990-91 team. Good company.

 

How about you? Where do you think Lillard will finish the season?

And don't tell me "20,000 points, edging out John Stockton for #55." You're always way too optimistic.

 

The LAST 7 seasons:

1. 2021-22
2. 2020-21
3. 2019-20
4. 2018-19
5. 2017-18
6. 2016-17
7. 2015-16<=====Blazers out of first round

Learn math, then post

 

That works if we are in the 21-22 season.

 

SIGH