Damian Lillard Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by blazerkor, Sep 27, 2023.

  1. OneSport3

    OneSport3 The Knowledge Hoarder

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2009
    Messages:
    3,287
    Likes Received:
    5,696
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I’m not the biggest Karmel fan but this was an entertaining pod. Pretty much sums up the Blazer fan experience the last few seasons and more.

     
    STOMP and BankTeller like this.
  2. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2022
    Messages:
    6,169
    Likes Received:
    5,036
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Freeloader
    Location:
    Mom’s basement
    Go get a couple rings Dame. Then come back and be that missing piece willing to come off the bench to help our new core win a couple more for you.
    Wish you the best in Milwaukie.
     
    BankTeller and Whyachi like this.
  3. blazerfan11

    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2019
    Messages:
    10,713
    Likes Received:
    10,832
    Trophy Points:
    113
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,731
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
  5. Whyachi

    Whyachi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2023
    Messages:
    7,479
    Likes Received:
    4,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I watched them. It's a different experience then watching regular season matador defense.

    Old school basketball comes back around. Teams can't just shoot 40+ threes a night and win. Defensive energy is ratcheted up, adversely effecting outside shooters. Hustle for rebounds gets wild at times. Just look at Draymond stomping on Sabonis, get that board and go !!

    Remember Portland's hot start to last season? The 10-4 opening month saw super active Blazer defense. More aggressive takes at the hoop. Not relying on 3 pointers to score points. Teams play like that in the playoffs. But at the end of season after a long journey of tired legs and bumps and bruises. Not the very beggining of the year with every player not named Gary Payton Jr. fresh and ready to rumble.

    The playoffs are a fun experience. Teams that do well have very deep rosters. Teams like Portland developing young players and acquiring future picks don't stand a chance.

    Maybe I'm wrong and the Blazers will do amazing? I'd be happy to see Portland winning and grinning.

    Though I've read through a half dozen updated preseason power rankings, and the highest spot awarded to Portland was 24th. That's a helluva ping pong ball.
     
  6. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,620
    Likes Received:
    16,765
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So Joe admits that he wasn't amicable. I don't think that means Joe takes all of the blame I just think it means that when Scoot fell to us despite what Joe was saying, the team decided to move on from Dame. They made Dame demand the trade instead of just saying they were moving on and that makes sense. Dame tried to fuck the front office with the Miami only shit because they pretty much fucked him. In the end the front office got Dame to a better place to try and win championships and Dame's scorched earth didn't cost us.

    Great job by Joe, stabbing the greatest Blazers player ever in the back but still making sure our team got a good return and thank you Dame for remaining loyal to Rip City while standing your ground and not staying on an obviously rebuilding team. Let's Go Blazers first and foremost!!! but for this upcoming season Fear the Deer.
     
    Hoopguru likes this.
  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,731
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    So you subscribe to the theory that Joe forced Dame to request a trade?
     
  8. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,646
    Likes Received:
    17,886
    Trophy Points:
    113
  9. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,620
    Likes Received:
    16,765
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't subscribe to the theory that forcing Dame to demand a trade was the plan before drafting Scoot. I do think that Joe knew when he drafted Scoot what Dame would do (demanding a trade, not the Miami shit) and all of the shit Joe said about still wanting to build around Dame was spin; if you consider that forcing Dame to request a trade, then yeah that's what I think Joe did. Joe heard all of the same stuff that we did and probably heard it in person before we ever did. So when Joe chose to go young I sincerely doubt he expected Dame to follow him down that path.
     
  10. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,646
    Likes Received:
    17,886
    Trophy Points:
    113
  11. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,646
    Likes Received:
    17,886
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think it's fairly cut and dry, Joe left Dame with the assumption he would send Dame where he wanted to go. Thats what pissed his off.
    It worked out in the end that he goes to the Bucks and Joe can re-engineer, which he probably wanted to do anyway.
     
  12. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    7,355
    Likes Received:
    14,920
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think "we" are over thinking it, and at the end of the day it should always be what's in the best interest of the fan base. Screw Lillard's feelings, just like he pretty much said, "screw the fan's feelings" when he tried to tie Joe's hands. The NBA is a business and Joe has a job to do (and keep). I appreciate all that Lillard has "done" for Portland, but I also appreciate that he has been exceedingly well paid for his efforts. Loyalty is a two way street. I don't appreciate that he continues to act like a spoiled little bitch after the people he is trashing gave him the absolute best opportunity to win a (IMHO) overhyped championship. It's not a good look. And when the place Lillard wanted to go to wasn't willing to offer up what what Lillard himself seems to think he is worth, then maybe he should take a step back and look within himself a bit harder. Why isn't he feeling insulted by Miami??? Screw the guy. I'm looking forward to a season void of hero ball and entitled egos.......Kudos to Joe for giving us a future we couldn't have with Dame on the team......
     
    riverman and Everything Beagle like this.
  13. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    19,517
    Likes Received:
    16,542
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joe probably would have been able to work something with Miami if they were more motivated to work. As soon as Dame and his agent went public about wanting Miami they screwed themselves. I don't blame Joe in the least. He was forced to play extreme hard ball with Miami by Dame and Goodwin. Harder ball than Miami was willing to play.
     
  14. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    19,517
    Likes Received:
    16,542
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Disagree 100%. Dame and his agent screwed both Dame and Portland. Joe made the best of it. Joe did the right thing.
     
  15. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,731
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Wizard Mentor likes this.
  16. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,620
    Likes Received:
    16,765
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I didn't say that Joe did the wrong thing. I just said that when he drafted Scoot, that was obviously him pivoting away from Dame. I don't think Dame ever wanted to play anywhere but Portland before that. What happened after that seems to me to be Dame reacting emotionally. That being said, I don't think anyone really got screwed. We got a very good return for Dame and Dame got a better chance at a championship than he would have had in Miami.
     
    Phatguysrule and BankTeller like this.
  17. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    19,517
    Likes Received:
    16,542
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I guess I should have been more specific about what I disagree with.
    You said:
    I disagree. Joe didn't stab Dame in the back. At least, I've seen no evidence that would suggest he did.
     
  18. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,731
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    I think it’s extremely entitled and disingenuous to take a statement from Joe that he would work to get you where you want to go, and then publicly air that destination, work to poison the well with other teams, and then be offended when Joe is unwilling to take a horrible offer from your one destination. You aren’t a free agent. You signed that huge contract. Nobody else gave Joe a list of one team. That’s absurd and Dame needs to stop talking.
     
  19. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,646
    Likes Received:
    17,886
    Trophy Points:
    113
    agree, Both Dame & his agent were wrong in going public.
     
  20. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    122,792
    Likes Received:
    122,777
    Trophy Points:
    115

Share This Page