Death penalty

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  1. ElMaster

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    I definitely agree with the death penalty, especially in murders. When you take away somebody's life, it's only fair to get yours taken away. I would even take it up a notch and instead of injecting stuff or killing them with gases , I would torture them first. </psycho>
     
  2. Hang Eleven

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"Every dollar we spend on a capital case is a dollar we can't spend anywhere else.... We have to let the public know what it costs [to pursue a capital case.]"- John M. Bailey, Chief State's Attorney, Connecticut New Jersey: Death Penalty Has Cost New Jersey Taxpayers $253 Million http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=108</div>Have you considered how much it would cost to keep them alive? I mean, there's food, the prison, guards, facilities to keep them busy, everything. I think it costs more for that than for the death penalty.
     
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    they do everything possible to make injection seem 'humane'
     
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    You can't torture them... that would be called hypocrisy. Read the Bill of Rights...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hang Eleven @ Jul 23 2006, 02:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Have you considered how much it would cost to keep them alive? I mean, there's food, the prison, guards, facilities to keep them busy, everything. I think it costs more for that than for the death penalty.</div>Well, the point he's making is that you have to keep them alive for the appeals process, which costs a lot. What I am asking is whether doing away with the death penalty will actually rid the economic issue or whatever.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jul 23 2006, 05:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You need to stop worrying about money all the time. Just because something is expensive doesnt make it not right. The US is already in debt up to their eye balls so losing millions of dollars isnt going to do anything at this point. Also, if you had a heart, you would sempathize for the familes that get their children, wife, husband, father, mother, sister, and brother's murdered for no reason.</div> Losing millions of dollars isn't going to do anything?....Tell my parents that....I have a heart but spending millions to kill people that are locked away for life...well it's pointless to me.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jul 23 2006, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Losing millions of dollars isn't going to do anything?....Tell my parents that....I have a heart but spending millions to kill people that are locked away for life...well it's pointless to me.</div>When the U.S. military is already spending billions of dollars a day, what is a couple million dollars going to do in order to do what is right? I dont believe in giving a man life after he has taken somebody's.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jul 23 2006, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When the U.S. military is already spending billions of dollars a day, what is a couple million dollars going to do in order to do what is right? I dont believe in giving a man life after he has taken somebody's.</div> The military costs come from the goverment...all these capitol cases come straight from our pockets and bog down our courts.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jul 23 2006, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The military costs come from the goverment...all these capitol cases come straight from our pockets and bog down our courts.</div>Whatever I say isnt going to change your mind because it is a matter of opinion. So I will obviosuly just stop arguing it right now. All im saying is that I think the cost of money is worth what we are doing...and u feel otherwise and that is fine. Its all a matter of opinions
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jul 23 2006, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Whatever I say isnt going to change your mind because it is a matter of opinion. So I will obviosuly just stop arguing it right now. All im saying is that I think the cost of money is worth what we are doing...and u feel otherwise and that is fine. Its all a matter of opinions</div> Yeah, it's definatly worth spending millions of dollars, having people wait 15 years on death row...wasting millions of dollars of tax payer money...bogging down our courts with appeals...just to inject/kill a guy that was going to rot in prison anyway... [​IMG] Just the fact that we let our courts/government decide life/death is ridiculous....
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jul 23 2006, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, it's definatly worth spending millions of dollars, having people wait 15 years on death row...wasting millions of dollars of tax payer money...bogging down our courts with appeals...just to inject/kill a guy that was going to rot in prison anyway... [​IMG] Just the fact that we let our courts/government decide life/death is ridiculous....</div>how is it considered ridiculous? We elect them every year dont we...
     
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    Do you guys realize that it not only cost us to put a man on Deathrow but also it costs us money to keep them in prison.I am skeptical to say I approve of it or don't because there are so many issues involved but I am not against it.This is because the men getting put to death are mass murderers and phycos,which if kept alive would only danger other prisoners etc.The only way that they are not either murderes or phycos is if they are Harrison Ford in the movie 'The Fugitive" which they are not.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jul 23 2006, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Do you guys realize that it not only cost us to put a man on Deathrow but also it costs us money to keep them in prison.I am skeptical to say I approve of it or don't because there are so many issues involved but I am not against it.This is because the men getting put to death are mass murderers and phycos,which if kept alive would only danger other prisoners etc.The only way that they are not either murderes or phycos is if they are Harrison Ford in the movie 'The Fugitive" which they are not.</div> Death Row doesn't kill enough people to keep costs down for prisons....You could have 200 people executed every year and the prison costs across the country would barely change...and Serial Killers are hardly a threat in prison, they are often killed in prison by other inmates unless they are confined by themselves...the cheapest form of the death penalty is having these people in with the prison population...but death row in prison usually means solitarty confinement.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jul 23 2006, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>how is it considered ridiculous? We elect them every year dont we...</div> Giving a judge the right...pretty much to have someone killed...I think is out of line.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jul 23 2006, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Giving a judge the right...pretty much to have someone killed...I think is out of line.</div>dont u think its out of line to let somebody live after killing innocent lives? I guess its all about money to you though...that is what it all comes down to
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jul 23 2006, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>dont u think its out of line to let somebody live after killing innocent lives? I guess its all about money to you though...that is what it all comes down to</div> I don't think it's out of line. It comes down to common sense. The courts in this country make it too big of a jumbled mess...Just keep the bum in his cell and don't waste more of the courts/tax payers time. I could care less if some bum is getting injected or if he sits in soletary confinement his whole life, either way the public won't have to deal with him.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jul 23 2006, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think it's out of line. It comes down to common sense. The courts in this country make it too big of a jumbled mess...Just keep the bum in his cell and don't waste more of the courts/tax payers time. I could care less if some bum is getting injected or if he sits in soletary confinement his whole life, either way the public won't have to deal with him.</div>thats because you have no relation to the person that had been killed. dont you think that if somebody close to you was murdered, you would like to see something done to him beyond the extremeties of living in a cell....
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jul 23 2006, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>thats because you have no relation to the person that had been killed. dont you think that if somebody close to you was murdered, you would like to see something done to him beyond the extremeties of living in a cell....</div>That varies from person to person. It depends on whether the person thinks with their head or their heart. Wanting to get revenge is human nature, but the way I look at it, killing the person who killed your loved one is just giving them the easy way out. Let them sit in a cell and rot for the rest of their life... let them sit there and think about what they did. They are going to die eventually anyway, right? So why not just let them sit there and rot in prison and then die? Giving them the death penalty is not going to bring your loved one back.That's just the way I look at it, but like I said before it will vary from person to person.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jul 23 2006, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>thats because you have no relation to the person that had been killed. dont you think that if somebody close to you was murdered, you would like to see something done to him beyond the extremeties of living in a cell....</div> My aunt was killed by a drunk driver a few years ago...and my neighbor from down the street last year was murdered in his house. I used to play basketball with him when I was a kid. He was beaten to death by a 'friend' with a baseball bat. I'm not 'an eye for an eye' kind of guy.
     
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    manslaughter is ALOT different than murder. That drunk driver didn't mean to kill your aunt. If someone murder another himan being intentionally, they deserve to die. And then rot in hell for eternity.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jul 24 2006, 12:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>manslaughter is ALOT different than murder. That drunk driver didn't mean to kill your aunt. If someone murder another himan being intentionally, they deserve to die. And then rot in hell for eternity.</div> She was killed intentionally....but I don't feel like going into it.
     

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