<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Oct 2 2006, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No I'm not going to take your spot lol. Like CB4 said, I'm already eliminated. I just said he shouldn't have changed the topic and that you guys should start after 5 whole days.</div>Exactly, it shouldn't have come down to me changing the topic, and since I did there should be posts in the debate already. It's ridiculous, and shows exactly how bad the orgnaization of this contest was to begin with.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Oct 2 2006, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Exactly, it shouldn't have come down to me changing the topic, and since I did there should be posts in the debate already. It's ridiculous, and shows exactly how bad the orgnaization of this contest was to begin with.</div>IMO, this has nothing to do with the organization of the league. This comes down to CB4 and Justice being afraid to make an opening post. And please don't jump all over me and say "I'm not afraid", then come up with some lame excuse on why you couldn't manage to write one response in 5 days - 2 different topics.THAT is ridiculous. Come on guys, get this over with.
It has to do with the organization of the league, from the start this has been a contest that is very laid back, deadlines not met, etc... There needs to be a better strictness with deadlines, telling me ahead of time that they can't post/judge at this or that time, etc...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Oct 2 2006, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Justice stop whining, I changed the topic so you could add more facts, now post.</div>I'm not the one whining.
Yes, you are, wanting to quit the debate. I changed the topic to your liking, pushed back the date, yet you want to quit. Why sign up for something, get so deep into the contest, then quit?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Oct 2 2006, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, you are, wanting to quit the debate. I changed the topic to your liking, pushed back the date, yet you want to quit. Why sign up for something, get so deep into the contest, then quit?</div>It has nothing to do with any of that. I don't need people bitching at me to post on an internet forum about a topic. If you have a problem, then just continue on without me. It's not that big of a deal to me.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Oct 3 2006, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It has nothing to do with any of that. I don't need people bitching at me to post on an internet forum about a topic. If you have a problem, then just continue on without me. It's not that big of a deal to me.</div>No one would be bitching at you if you weren't wasting people's time. If you didn't want to continue on, you could have said so before I posted the topic, and definately before you bitched for me to change the topic.BALLAHOLIC- Yeah, you can. CB4 will automatically get the bye, but you can debate as an exhibition.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Oct 3 2006, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No one would be bitching at you if you weren't wasting people's time. If you didn't want to continue on, you could have said so before I posted the topic, and definately before you bitched for me to change the topic.BALLAHOLIC- Yeah, you can. CB4 will automatically get the bye, but you can debate as an exhibition.</div>Uh, this is absolutely moronic. If you wanted me to post before now, you could have left the final date as it was. I didn't ask to have the topic changed, nor did I ask to have the date pushed back. Give me a break and stop making up whatever you please to try to make me look bad. I merely said that I will post when I damn well please or I won't post at all. I don't need someone on my nuts telling me when to post.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I haven't posted because I haven't had a whole lot of time, I don't know what I'm going to say, I don't love the topic a whole lot because it's hard to substantiate, and other reasons.</div>That is what you said, I changed the topic to you guys liking AND pushed date back so you could have more time as weekends are a hard time to post...then you say you're going to quit because I would like for this debate to not drag on for weeks like the first few rounds? Give me a break, dude...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Oct 3 2006, 10:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That is what you said, I changed the topic to you guys liking AND pushed date back so you could have more time as weekends are a hard time to post...then you say you're going to quit because I would like for this debate to not drag on for weeks like the first few rounds? Give me a break, dude...</div>Please quote where I said that I would like for the topic to be changed. I said that I didn't like the topic. I never said I wouldn't post on it. I never said that I wanted the date pushed back. If you would stop making up utter lies about what I said, I'd really appreciate it. Now go on ahead with your little game.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Oct 3 2006, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Please quote where I said that I would like for the topic to be changed. I said that I didn't like the topic. I never said I wouldn't post on it. I never said that I wanted the date pushed back. If you would stop making up utter lies about what I said, I'd really appreciate it. Now go on ahead with your little game.</div>I posted exactly what you said. I changed the topic so it would be more fact-oriented, and pushed date back so you guys would have more time so it'd actually be an interesting debate. After I did all that, and still no posts, and you say you're going to quit...is just ridiculous. I tried to make things so it'd benefit both of you. I asked for you guys to post soon because I don't want this to be one of those debates where there's 2 posts and it's over, it's the 2nd to last round, we need to have an actual debate, which is why I'm trying to egg you guys on to post.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Oct 3 2006, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Please quote where I said that I would like for the topic to be changed. I said that I didn't like the topic. I never said I wouldn't post on it. I never said that I wanted the date pushed back. If you would stop making up utter lies about what I said, I'd really appreciate it. Now go on ahead with your little game.</div>Man this guy is trying to make a good debate contest... there's no need to complain
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Oct 3 2006, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I posted exactly what you said.</div>Quoting exactly what I said and posting what you think I said are two very different things. I didn't ask to have the topic changed. Period.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ELiiiTE @ Oct 3 2006, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Man this guy is trying to make a good debate contest... there's no need to complain</div>My problem is that 1. I am bitched at to post because OH MY GOD IT'S BEEN FIVE DAYS. I didn't care and would have posted, but the time got pushed back (which I never asked for, yet it's supposed to make me happy for some reason... I never cared). If you want me to post, just wait until I have f*cking time. I am not going out of my way to piss people off. I have other things to do. I'm not posting now because I do what I want on my own time and people need to respect that or leave me the hell alone. 2. Nitro1118 is putting words in my mouth, because he feels he's in the right and wants to make me look bad. I didn't do anything wrong, I didn't ask for anything to be changed, and I just want to be respected. Since that respect hasn't been shown, they can continue on to the next round. There's nothing more to be discussed.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Oct 3 2006, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Quoting exactly what I said and posting what you think I said are two very different things. I didn't ask to have the topic changed. Period.</div>Quote me where I said that you asked for it to be changed. You didn't, but it was implied that you had no idea what you were going to say and that it'd be hard to substansiate. I fixed topic so it would be easier to make a case for your player.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>My problem is that 1. I am bitched at to post because OH MY GOD IT'S BEEN FIVE DAYS. I didn't care and would have posted, but the time got pushed back (which I never asked for, yet it's supposed to make me happy for some reason... I never cared). If you want me to post, just wait until I have f*cking time. I am not going out of my way to piss people off. I have other things to do. I'm not posting now because I do what I want on my own time and people need to respect that or leave me the hell alone. 2. Nitro1118 is putting words in my mouth, because he feels he's in the right and wants to make me look bad. I didn't do anything wrong, I didn't ask for anything to be changed, and I just want to be respected. Since that respect hasn't been shown, they can continue on to the next round. There's nothing more to be discussed.</div>NO ONE BITCHED AT YOU TO DO ANYTHING!!! All I said was PLEASE make your opening statements, as time is running out of this debate. I'm sorry if you don't care about the contest, but I want to make this at least somewhat of a success and the only way of doing this is to make debates as interesting as possible, and only way to do this is actually POSTING IN THE GOD DAMN TOPIC!!! It shouldn't take 5 days to make an opening statement. I changed the topic in case the other topic was a bit too hard or confusing, and pushed deadline back in hopes of this debate actually going somewhat, and of course it is tough for people to post on weekends. Yet your going to throw it back in my face and quit? If you can't take people asking you to post in a debate contest YOU signed up for, then why sign up in first place? It isn't like I didn't give you guys time, I tried to do things in your favor yet still nothing. Don't waste my time by signing up and then eventually quitting, despite adjustments being made to fit your needs.I never put words in your mouth, 'nor do I want to make you look bad. What I want is for this contest to go as smoothly as possible, and waiting nearly a week to make your opening statement, despite changing topic to make it easier and pushing deadline back, is just ridiculous. Then when I try to egg you guys on to finally make a opening statement (seriously, is this unreasobale, it isn't like the thread has been up for only a day...), you quit and get all defensive? Give me a break, dude.
Justice, if u didnt have time, you should have never entered in to the debate. If you are in the debate, u should post out of sincerity to CB4 and the people who have put time in to this debate. I understand that you are busy, but how hard is it to spend 15 minutes of your time? And he changed the topic to make it easier for you. I dont understand how thats a bad thing...
Justice has the time, the guy makes over 10 posts per day and he's taking all the time in the world to argue in this thread. He just doesn't want to do it.
[quote name='Nitro1118' post='169898' date='Oct 3 2006, 10:21 PM']Quote me where I said that you asked for it to be changed.[/quote][quote name='Nitro1118' post='169214' date='Oct 2 2006, 11:04 PM']I changed the topic to your liking[/quote][quote name='Nitro1118' post='169314' date='Oct 3 2006, 01:20 AM']and definately before you bitched for me to change the topic.[/quote][quote name='Nitro1118' post='169381' date='Oct 3 2006, 10:03 AM']I changed the topic to you guys liking[/quote]That was so hard to find! I never ever asked for the topic to be changed. I said I would make a reply when I figured out what I was going to say.[quote name='ballerman2112' post='170393' date='Oct 4 2006, 08:45 PM']Justice, if u didnt have time, you should have never entered in to the debate. If you are in the debate, u should post out of sincerity to CB4 and the people who have put time in to this debate. I understand that you are busy, but how hard is it to spend 15 minutes of your time? And he changed the topic to make it easier for you. I dont understand how thats a bad thing...[/quote]Uh, I entered into the debates two months ago (you know, early August?), before school started. It's not a bad thing that he changed the topic, but he keeps claiming I am wasting his time. He keeps claiming that I asked him to change the topic and I asked him to push back the date and so on. I didn't ask him to do anything. The debate could be over by now, but people chose to whine at me about how long it's taking. I don't see why it's a problem to move on without me if you are going to be impatient like that. And I won't take part in another contest like this, because it's been absolutely pathetic.[quote name='CelticBalla32' post='170510' date='Oct 4 2006, 11:43 PM']Justice has the time, the guy makes over 10 posts per day and he's taking all the time in the world to argue in this thread. He just doesn't want to do it.[/quote]I didn't have time this weekend to formulate a worthwhile response. You bitched at me about not having made a response after this weekend. I could have made a response since then, but I'm not going to due to the lack of respect for me. I don't know how many times I have to say it. You seemed to have more time than I did, so I gave my spot up. I thought that was pretty nice of me, personally.
