Decision Time On Options for CJ, Meyers and T-Rob

Why would Leonard be played ahead of Leonard if Robinson's better? Because this is preseason, the time to see what Leonard can do. The preseason rotation is not an indicator of the regular season rotation.

What don't you understand about putting multiple quotes into a post?

 

Breaking up one guy's post, to respond to each part separately, is a bear. There's no easy way, or we'd all do it more often. You just copy and paste the whole post several times, then repeatedly delete all but the portion to which you are responding.

 

On my phone

It's so easy, I just decided to do it again.

I just use the code and press return

 

I don't know how to do it...are you running seminars on how to these things? If you are I'll sign up!

 

It's actually very simple. When you reply as a quote, you will see this "[" and the word quote with "]". Then when you are finished, just use the same "[", but add "/" then "quote" and then "]".

Try it

The start should look like this without the space [ quote] and at the end, [/quote]

 

[/QUOTE]

So I just did a practice one and I butchered it. I won't be posting the results.

Thanks for the tips. I'll get it figured out!

 

So I just did a practice one and I butchered it. I won't be posting the results.

Thanks for the tips. I'll get it figured out! [/QUOTE]

Just pay attention to the code when you reply with quotes. it will explain everything! The [ ] is what inserts the code. The "/" means end. So the code like "bold" would just be "b". Use that end code in front and put them in those brackets.

 

Yeah, but to break up a post, you have to have to do it repeatedly, each time deleting the unused part of the other guy's post you're quoting. Maybe I'm just lazy. Your cell phone seems to have some shortcut key that makes it easy.

 

All three of these guys have been underwhelming, unfortunately.
They won't get many minutes under Stotts anyway, so I'd rather see a consolidation trade, if there's anything worthwhile on the table. Perhaps get a legit contributor off of the bench at the 8th roster spot.
Would free some time for Crabbe too, who I still think has potential.

 

Practice? We talkin' 'bout practice?

 

Why do you assume they are mutually exclusive. How does his ability to hit 3-pointers on the offensive end negatively impact his rebounding and defense on the other end?

Well then you may remember a guy named Bill Laimbeer who could hit 3-pointers and was a great rebounder and a total thug when it came to protecting the paint on the other end. I'm not saying Meyers is the next Laimbeer, just pointing out hitting 3-pointers on offense does not automatically preclude doing the things you value on the other end.

I think you have made up your mind and aren't really seeing the improvement. Yes, it's been slow (which was expected when he was drafted), but he has made progress. Rebounding was the one area he actually improved from his first year to his second. His TRB% went from an unimpressive (but not Bargnani bad) 12.3% as a rookie to a respectable 16.8% last year (second highest on the team). I haven't seen too many of the preseason games, but the two I watched (one of the Utah games and the Lakers game), Meyers looked better on the boards and on defense. He was actively boxing out and going after rebounds and had a couple solid blocks where he was in the right place at the right time and did the right thing.

I'm not saying we should, or shouldn't, pick up his option, just that there has been improvement. It's been slow, but it is there. Is it enough to pick up his option? I don't know. Glad it's not my call. He showed promise on offense his rookie year, but regressed significantly in that area his second season. In preseason (usual disclaimer), he seems to have his offensive touch back and more importantly, his confidence, and is rebounding at a rate comparable to his second season and seems to be playing better defense (from what I've seen). If he could just put all three aspects together and continue to improve, he'd be worth the $3 million investment. I'll leave that decision to the coaches that work with him on a daily basis and the GM who has a plan for managing cap space moving forward. It's not an easy call.

BNM

 

I never thought they are mutually exclusive. I am talking about the observation. And it's pretty apparent that a PF can hit 3 pointers and rebound. Love is a prime example of that.

if Leonard could be Lambeer, even similar, I would be ecstatic!!!! You would hear zero negativity on my end if this was the case.

I watched those games and I didn't see this. I haven't made up my mind. I don't want to make up my mind! I wish Leonard would make me eat my words and I would be the first to publicly admit I am wrong. I am a Blazer fan and only want each of the players on this squad be the best. I am not Roytoy or mixum that wants to call out in bias. I am just unhappy with his progression.

I guess the thing that really pisses me off the most is what he does on his time off. He has publicly mentioned he worked on his 3 point shooting last summer. I wish those words were "I have been working on defensive positioning and rebounding" instead. The offensive part of his game can be worked out secondly. That specialist offense should be last on the list on his development.

I'm just frustrated bro. I hope Leonard proves me wrong. We will be a better team if that's the case. That's all I want.

 

Bingo. You mention Laimbeer (who actually led the entire league in rebounding at least once, and pioneered the whole pick and pop big man), but there's also Rasheed, who, while not a huge rebounder, was a great defender even when he was shooting threes, and Kevin Love, who has also (I believe) led the league in rebounding while shooting threes (and being crappy on D, it must be admitted). Bosh and Aldridge are the closest to being good at all three these days.

I've been opposed to Leonard since before we drafted him, but I have to admit he's improved at both ends, although more on offense than defense. He's certainly trying, even though he'll obviously never be a great defender. But Channing Frye is a good thing to aim for: Channing has had awesome +/- scores in the past couple of seasons. I'm not excited about Leonard, but I'm not depressed, as I am with Robinson, who doesn't seem to have improved his court sense at all.

 

At 3 mil a year, a Channing frye type is fine. I just see some team, hopefully not the Blazers, that would fork out 5-8 mil for just the upside. He's a 7 footer, so they are hard to come by.

 

Fantasy expectations much?

 

He did. Here's a link to that interview.

http://www.blazersedge.com/2013/7/9...d-discusses-new-teammates-depth-chart-defense

He talks about improving his defense multiple times before he mentions extending his range out to the 3-point line. That came up near the end of the interview and the interview seized it and ran with it. Here's just one of his quotes about improving his defense:

"Not only that, my defense continues to improve, worked a lot on staying straight up. Defending the paint, continue to do that."

He also talks about improving his low post game and finishing in hte paint with both hands, BEFORE he mentions the 3-pointer:

What are you working on on offense?

"Continue to learn to score around the rim, different post moves. Both with finesse and with power."

And then, he mentions the 3-pointer for the first time:

"Every now and then, stepping out to the three-point line."

That's the quote that started all the bashing about Leonard spending all his time working on the 3-pointer and not focused on defense and rebounding. Of course, the media ran with that and it's all we've heard about since. This summer he spent a couple weeks in Michigan working out with Kaman. I doubt if the Caveman, who hasn't made a single 3-pointer in his entire 11-year NBA career was helping Meyers improve his 3-point shooting.

The perception is Meyers spends all his time working on his 3-point shot and neglects the other areas of his game that need improving. The reality is different.

BNM

 

If that's what he said, then I stand corrected. When I start seeing him more active defensively is when I will believe and support. Deal?

 

First, re centers shooting threes: I'd say Meyers is a power forward not a center. Roy Hibbert he isn't. So there's that.

Second, re centers shooting threes: I can't believe no one mentioned Sabonis was a pretty good three point shooter back in the day. But what I loved most about him was his passing. Meyers seems to be a pretty good passer too, though he'll ever be as amazing as Sabas at it.

 

Again with the facts. When will you learn? It's about belief, not truth.

Which reality? Not the one that mags creates for himself.

I'm pretty sure that Leonard wasn't working on his 3-point shot when he was working out with Kaman. I'm pretty sure he was getting pummeled repeatedly in the low post.

 

Hey asshole! I said "I stand corrected!"