Defending Olshey

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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    Not that I am defending those that are trying to diss on Olshey, but I would love to Have Wiggins right now. I guarantee you Aldridge would have been open to playing next to LBJ and Irving.
     
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    You were happy with trading Batum before he hit free agency, no?
     
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    This would have been 1 year ago, not two, which means that you would trade the best player of a team that finally made it to the 2nd round and seemed to be poised to take another step with another year for Dame.

    That deal happened because LBJ went to to the Cavs last year and the things that cascaded from it. It was not a deal that would have happened in 2013.
     
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    Jimmy Butler refused to sign an extension.
     
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    Jimmy Butler is an RFA. LaMarcus wasn't thrilled with his contract when he signed his first extension. If Butler signed the one-year qualifier, would you trade him?
     
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    Has Jimmy Butler said, "this is why I hate Chicago" in a published article?

    Has he sold everything in his name, let his sponsorships expire?

    Has he requested a trade?

    No? Didn't think so. Apples to oranges, kinda a poor comparison, eh?

    Also, didn't he turn down am extension because it was way below his value?

    As I continue on, I'm not really sure what the point of this post is actually. Completely different scenarios.
     
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    These are good points to.

    Literally no clue what Jimmy Buckets situation has to do with LMA.
     
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    Butler wanted to sign a one year contract with LA.
    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/6/29/8861249/Jimmy-butler-rumors-los-angeles-lakers-chicago-bulls
     
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    He wanted to play for LA. He could have signed the contract he wanted with the Bulls. Or he could have played out his QO and made MORE money.
     
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    Yet, he didn't demand a trade.

    Didn't cancel his sponsorships or sell all his shit.

    And he didn't say, once again, in a published articlr, that he HATES Chicago.

    And in the end, he eventually signed a long term contract with the bulls.

    Do you think if he said fuck you, I'm taking the qualifying offer, the Bulls would just sit and wait the whole year?

    Yea, me neither.
     
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    Yet, he didn't. He signed a long term contract with the bulls - because he wants to be there.

    You're arguing against yourself now.
     
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    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q100

    There are two additional circumstances in which a trade requires the player's consent:

    • When the player is playing under a one-year contract (excluding any option year) and will have Larry Bird or Early Bird rights at the end of the season. This includes first round draft picks following their fourth (option) season, who accept their team's qualifying offer for their fifth season. When the player consents to such a trade, his Larry Bird/Early Bird rights are not traded with him, and instead becomes a Non-Bird free agent3.
    • For one year after exercising the right of first refusal to keep a restricted free agent. The player must consent to a trade to any team, although he cannot be traded to the team that signed him to the offer sheet.
     
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    Neil is sleeping on the job.

    Per source.
     
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    He signed with the Bulls because they gave him the Maximum Qualifying Offer which wouldn't allow him to sign anywhere else without the Bulls matching (he'd be stuck for 3 years anyway). He could have risked injury and signed the regular QO and made more money ($7M more over 5 years). An injury would have cost him many tens of $millions.
     
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    Yes. It hurts that we didn't get anything for Aldridge and co. abut I don't see how you can be extremely angry with Olshey. Until Mathews injury, we had a shot at the Western Conference Finals. And that doesn't happen to often. Olshey learned a hard lesson this as GM as did we all. And that is that, in a market like Portland, you already have you're next trade ready. The Blazers have to treat their players like assets or prisoners. I guarantee he won't make the same mistake twice.
     
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    Absolutely this! This is why I defend Olshey. If we went out the first round again, that deal with Cleveland would have gone down.

    So we were unlucky because we were good enough to keep Aldridge. Then we were unlucky because we were just not good enough because of injuries.

    The hindsight filter is fucking stupid and is only used for people to support bashing.
     
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    He can't do anything until Wednesday.
     

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