Free Agent Derrick Jones to Portland

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  1. Tince

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    I totally agree turnovers can happen when you split a double, as with any play. I think it's a complicated assessment when determining when Dame should try to split a double team. Angles of the defender are most important, as well as their defensive abilities. Splitting the double team puts the offense in such a huge advantage, that if you are able to be successful a few times, it might cause defenses to change their defense, which also might be to the advantage of the offense long term.

    I think if you keep your eye out, you'll see players splitting defenders more often than you would initially assume.
     
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    Yes I see all the time and usually when there successful is when the trap comes late or it's terrible trap with to much space between defenders.
     
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    Quotes from article

     
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    I was looking at some of Jones’ numbers, and in his last g league stint in 2017/18, he shot 34% from three, on 5 attempts a game. Last year, he improved his free throw shooting by nearly 20% (77%) Maybe its just a matter of consistency (opportunity) rather than a lack of ability.

    Remember, Aminu was a sub 30% shooter when he signed with Portland averaging about 2 attempts a game, then never shot below 33% or attempted fewer than 3.5 again. If Jones can hover around that figure, he’s gonna be big time, because he brings more off the ball than Aminu did, imo.
     
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    If DJJ really flourishes what is most we can sign him for?

    I think its 120% of salary for 4 years as nonbird free agent, so starting around 12 mil... maybe 55 ish million over 4 years?

    Would hate for him to be a phenomenal starter and we don't have the cap means to retain him. All very unlikely I know, but interesting to think about.
     
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    if jones flourishes and everyone else just has their standard season, we’re winning the championship lol. And if we win a championship, they could bring back Evan Turner on a max and I wouldnt care.

    but yeah, I’m hoping he balls out and they figure the rest out later. I’ve found that most guys that flourish in Portland aren’t in a rush to leave. Jones’ personality seems like a fit.
     
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    if he opts out next off-season, then yes, non-bird starting at about 11.1 M. That would be a 4 year base of 44.4M. 5% raises so about 3.3M in raises. So then, it would be about 4-year/47.4M.....a shade under 12M/year, if all the math is right

    if he opts in next summer, then he'd be early-Bird the following summer and his max 1st year would be 175% of previous salary....around 16.57M. He'd be eligible for 8% raises. A 4 year base of 66.3M + 7.95M in raises. So then a 4-year/74.2M max contract

    if he opts out next summer, he'd be UFA at the same time Trent and Collins will be RFA. If he opts out the following summer, he'd be UFA at the same time Nurkic, Covington, and Hood would be UFA and Simons would be RFA. That would be an interesting off-season
     
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    When can we give Nurk an extension?
     
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    Why would he want a year two option? Its all about the money, we may have choices to make after next year as other players are playing for contacts.
     
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    This explains some things:
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    That article....

    We were bidding against the Kings and the Wolves, and it sounds like he chose us mainly because our offer was more money than the Wolves offer.

    Wonder who else we were talking to and if we committed too early.

    I hope there's some truth to his ball handling ability, because the last two guys they gave that freedom to (Hezonja and Aminu) did not live up to expectations.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    What analytics? Must be defensive analytics that is not available publically (or free). Because his offensive analytics make him look like a center....
     
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    Although I found this signing a bit mysterious, I think that he's being signed as much as a trade chip as anything. Think of it as like all those PFs the Knicks signed last year - it was a way of turning cap space into flippable assets.
     
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    Didnt he say in the Blazer interview he will start at the 3?
     
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    Wait, he’s starting?
     
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    That's what Neil said.
     
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    No...he said he could play the 3 4 or 2...whatever the team needed him to do...he also said he chose Portland because he thought he and RoCo would put Portland over the top with defense
     
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    Neil said it's Terry's call
     
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