OT Derrick Rose accused of rape

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  1. BlayZa

    BlayZa Misbehaving responsibly

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    ok things we know for sure so far:

    1. they were in a relationship for a number of years
    2. this allegedly happened 2yrs ago
    3. she is suing him for $, not pressing charges.
    4. she brought up that he asked her to masty in front of him. (this part is super odd to me, not the action but why mention it - if you're in a relationship and think that's unusual then... *shrug*)
    5. story broke on new rose shoe day release - PR quinkydink?
    6. the alleged crime is a train run on her by her bf and his friends after getting roofied, but she escaped, so they broke into her apartment to rape her anyway.
    7. drose is loaded

    i dunno, the things i take out of what we know so far is , relationship over - money not justice - drose loaded. - im really not seeing a whole lot of reason to get on the 'he raped her' bus yet.

    still, its interesting to read some peoples responses so far, no doubt its a controversial subject etc, but this will be judged on not what you say, but what you can prove, or she will just get paid to stfu.

    what does everyone feel the likely outcome is? settlement? and is that 'justice' for all you white knights out there?
     
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    This.


    It will go away quietly.
     
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    so he asked her to masturbate on skype - she refused and stopped skyping.
    she learned he had a gf win chitown - but stayed with him anyways.
    she went to see him with a 'friend' who somehow ended up giving him a handjob and when he suggested they get it on as a group she was disgusted and so was the 'friend'.

    also

    Rose and the woman dated from 2011 until July 2013. In May 2013, according to the lawsuit, the woman said she traveled to Chicago with Rose and that they went to dinner with a friend “at his house after the game he played in ended.”

    Rose, however, missed the entire the 2012-13 season with an injury and, consequently, did not play in May.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    This post is the result of out of touch crackaz learning about parties and bar life through Law and Order: SVU.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Pro-tip: the better plan of action is to befriend the girl's Friendzone'd Bro's protecting her. Get THEM blackout drunk so they disappear and suddenly the girl thinking they ditched them. Since you were "friends" with them and were cool with them, you're the good guy and she says the phrase "Don't leave me".

     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    At least 3 women in my family were raped and I have known countless other women who have been sexually assaulted and work in social services for sexual assault survivors. None of them reported the assault. You can kind of understand why when you read this thread. They got no justice. No one paid for their years of therapy. But, I guess it just could have been an elaborate ruse to trick everyone because of their remorse. And I guess I am a white knight because I oppose rape.
     
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    eh you aint a white knight for that kinda shit. i can't imagine anyone promoting rape - and would assume everyone here inherently opposes it also.

    im also a huge fan of evidence and reporting shit like that when it happens.
     
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    Reporting is a personal choice. If you are a victim, you have the choice about whether to subject yourself to the SAFE kits which are pretty fucking invasive after you have just been raped and whether you really want to be subjected to an investigation, etc. Personally, I think it is pretty callous to look down on someone for choosing not to report. It is their decision. Afterall, they are the victim. Sure, reporting could prevent reoffenses, but in that moment you are in shock and you are justifiably concerned you won't be believed. You feel violated and the investigation feels like it would be violating you all over again. It is a he said, she said situation and you are worried you won't be believed. I will never look down on someone for choosing not to report. Now, I get it, Jane Doe waited 2 years to say anything and her story seems farfetched. Date rape drugs are incredibly tough to detect. I have heard that usually by the time the victim is conscious, the drug has left the person's system. Although the story doesn't seem to make sense, does that mean it didn't happen? Not being an expert on rape drugs or a toxicologist I can't really comment. If Mrs. Doe is a liar, she is doing more harm than to just D. Rose; she is causing those real victims to question whether they should report, and that is why I will never jump to conclusions about whether an SA accusation is true. Doing so is part of the problem in my opinion.
     
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    ^

    no, just cause none of it makes sense certainly doesnt mean it didn't happen. but as none of us are involved all we have is the claims in the accusation & timings. I'm not jumping to a final conclusion here, but TBH from everything that is presented so far, I dont see how this is going to get to a verdict in her favor at all, which pushes my 'opinion' to question all of what she is saying - makes me feel like its a 'settle out of court' pitch, where, assuming it did happen, is pathetic and detrimental to the ongoing justice and policing of these type of offenses.

    just to be clear, i can't stand derrick rose, gold diggers or rapists. they can all rot in hell as far as im concerned.
     
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    This is some Bullshit.
     
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    Not any more bullshit than your feminist propaganda and your absurd accusations of misogyny and rape apologia. You talk like you are an expert on this subject but assume no one else has put time into thinking about or researching these issues. Trust me, you aren't nearly the first radical feminist/tumblrite-persona I've come across, nor are any of your statistics new to me. Had you any extended reading on the subject you'd realize quite readily how absurdly-derived and manipulated some of these statistics actually are. The 1/5 statistic is flawed not only because of the survey method but also because it doesn't measure rape as it is commonly defined, nor does it purport to. It's a measure of sexual assault with very loose/ambiguous definitions of what comprises assault - not strictly the legal definition. Not only were survey takers self-selected and offered a gift for taking the survey, but they were taken from only two universities. But what really gets me is that you believe only 1.3% of men are raped as opposed to 20% of women. This is clearly an abuse of the definition of rape as it concerns males vis-a-vis females and it shows the marginalization of male sexual assault victims as a result if anything. There is much evidence that adolescent boys are molested comparably to adolescent girls, and one would be prudent to wonder how all those young boys, men outside of prison, and men who are raped in prison account for only 1/15 the rate of sexual assault as women. Though, I do doubt you see far enough past your ideology to consider that there are inordinate victims in this world not women; or to conclude that such a stark contrast between male and female sexual assault victims is an extreme improbability parroted as fact for political/ideological reasons.
     
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