Hold on I just choked!!! Generally I dismiss your posts as performance art and let them stay where they belong, as entertainment. I'm boggled right now though. Are you really suggesting that KP has done anything but a stellar job as the GM of the Blazers? Be upset that he didn't make a move at the deadline if you want, but as a Blazers fan you better be damn happy that KP is here. We suffered through to many years of John Nash, and his unbelievable crappiness, to ever question KP's direction for this teams future.
Ahhh, the million dollar question. I wish I knew as well. I think he's on the payroll and, therefore, is going nowhere anytime soon.
Bottom line, we didn't want to trade our potential young stars Bayless and Batum. Trading them and adding some east coast vet would change our culture. If you haven't figured this out yet, then your mom/girlfriend is a smarter blazer fan than you.
But that trade had nothing to do with Batum or Bayless - so I'm not sure I understand your point? It was VC + THEIR two future first rounders (GSW and Dallas) for nothing but Raef's contract. That's like best of all worlds and a total no-brainer - which makes it far too good to be true.
You have to look at the big picture on this one. Carter puts the team over the luxury tax by a large margain while he's here Pritchard has shown in the last few drafts that he can simply buy first round picks for only 3 million apiece which is less than Carter would have cost Paul Allen.
mixum, there is no way you can believe ANY gm in the league would be stupid enough to turn down that deal... Carter AND TWO 1sts for RLEC ? that's fabricated.... im ok with criticising Pritch etc but c'mon now, LOOK at the offer - its far too good to be true.
It would also mean that we would only have the MLE this summer. Even with Miles, we should have more than that right now, and I'm sure we have a plan for how to use that space.
Actually the MLE and the cap space with Raef , Channing and Fuffin is pretty close. about 1.5 more I think than the MLE.
Hey, look everybody... Steve Patterson is posting on our board. Mixed-up Steve, I have just one word for you: subterfuge! That's right. I went there. subterfuge, subterfuge, subterfuge BNM
I've thought about this a couple of different ways, and I could see KP turning this down. One, big lux tax hit for PA in 2010-11. Not necessarily that I (or he) cares, but that's a big pill to swallow. You have to have something hurting really bad to get that down. Second, maybe VC comes in and helps out immensely. Maybe not. I'm sure that KP and his team did all the number crunching and came up with the notion that while he might be ok for our team, he wouldn't solve all of our ills. And he has the big contract. Third...the draft picks? Seriously? They'll cost KP 3M each in the next two drafts. MAYBE a trade exception. 6M for the picks, or 45-50M for the picks + VC for 2 years? I'm not saying I would've turned it down, but there's a plausible case for why KP did, if this was reported accurately (which it probably is close, since multiple people have heard and reported it).
I don't think KP ever intended to get Carter at all, but just to drive up the price for him. I remember him almost laugh at a question about Carter in an interview after the deadline.
Why didn't the LAST 3 games prove he was correct for standing pat with this squad? Why will the next 4 games prove he was wrong?
no way around it.... pritchard dropped the ball big time it will be fun to see everyone turn when we dont make the playoffs caus eof the trade deadline debacle
CAUSE THE LAST 3 GAMES WERE VS 2 OF THE WORST TEAMS IN THE NBA. And the hawks were destroyed by utah. The clippers were wout zach, thorton, camby. Im supposed to think all is well and pritchard proved me wrong lol?
I think that we need to all acknowledge that this offer may or may not have been on the table. IF he turned it down, I think he blew it. "Blew it" insofar as that's about as much current and future talent as we could EVER hope to get for RLEC, and it would have made us better in the short and long run. Well, first of all, I'm not sure that it was a debacle. Secondly, I'm pretty confident that we're making the playoffs, whether there was a debacle or not. Ed O.
But what if the "talent" wasn't at a position of need? One could make the case that there are at least two outcomes hinging on KP taking the rumored deal. Outcome One: He gets Carter as our 3rd SG, moving him to SF. Taking almost all of Batum's and Outlaw's SF minutes, and dropping Travis to almost solely a backup PF, which with LMA means he's getting 8-12 mpg. Making our offense somewhat better, though our defense is still quite shoddy and I submit we still need an upgrade at some point of PG. We get 2 draft picks as well. Total outlay for VC is his contract (which puts us over the LuxTax this year, btw) and the lux taxes for this year (relatively minimal, maybe 5M or so) the lux tax in 2010-11 (when we'll have 3 max-or-close-to players and Joel and Oden as our big salaries). So around a 50M cost for an offensive upgrade at SG/SF and two draft picks. Outcome Two. We "go to war with what we have". We let RLEC expire, giving us the chance to have our normal draft prep, armed with cash, Travis and Blake's non-guaranteed 20090-10 contracts, a boatload of 2nds and a TE to get an extra pick if we target a player we can get. We read the tea leaves to see if we can get a guy (say, Sessions?) at a position of upgrade need for around our 7M or so ,or make either a "lopsided trade" or a S&T for who we want. Summary: Guy we really want, at a position of upgrade need, for 7M or so per year increase (either the signing, or the difference in lopsided trades). Outlay: extra 7M per year, plus maybe 6M for draft picks. I'm not positive he "blew it". I think this is him considering all options and choosing the harder, and less popular, right.
I highly doubt that trade was on the table. Wasn't all the talk at the deadline about NJ's reluctance for giving up GS' draft pick? And now they'd give us Dallas' as well, plus just get cap savings in Raef? I call bullshit on that one. If that was all NJ's asking price for Vince, they would've gotten rid of him somewhere else.
Alex, there you go with your reasoning and logic again. When will you learn that there's no room for that here; if you can't consistently bring panic, grief and nonsense to this board on a daily basis, you need to be traded. Edit: I forgot to add "sorry, it's the truth."
