Did Pat Connaughton make his case for being one of the untouchables?

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  1. Harry's Raincoat

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    I have been of the belief for some time now...that Pat C can be the replacement for Crabbe in our rotation. Given the same minutes he will produce adequately. He might even work better WITH Turner than AC does.

    I hope the Neil will use the offseason to trim salary by making an unequal trade involving Crabbe and other assets. We cannot afford to have so much devoted to TWO reserves. Maybe one, but not two!
     
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    chzbrgr Well-Known Member

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    what does that say tho? Is patty a decent backup or is crabbe an 18m dollar towel waver? .....

    I'm gunna say the latter and not the former
     
  3. Blazers Roy

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    Turner needs to gtfo too, we don't need him.
     
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    Oh shit, did we just "develop" Pat to be a 60 million dollars player like Crabbe??
     
  5. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    Pat is a bit more active than Crabbe, but Crabbe has that "doesn't turn the ball over 20% of the time" thing going for him.
     
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    Let's add Turner to the comparison. I'm all for trading Crabbe, but we should get decent value in return for him, and be patient if necessary. I'm fine with Turner being a salary dump, but Crabbe should get us something good.

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  7. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    God you people sometimes. Do you apply this type of logic to your day to day...... like if you JUST squeeze thru a yellow light once, you say fuckit and try it the rest of the day? Or the one time you awkwardly made the mistake of thinking a female looked at you up at the coffee shop and just assume all chics want you from that moment on.
     
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    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    I wish we could do player comparisons post-ASG. I'm almost willing to give everyone a pass until next trade deadline because we had such a decimating year at the C position until February.
     
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  9. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    We haven't seen Turner in the playoffs yet. I think that will be huge in deciding who to move and who to keep this summer. Defense still wins championships. Playing GSW in the first round isn't really a fair test of individual defense, but if Turner and Aminu can do a good job limiting (nobody's stopping them) Durant and Thompson, it will give Neil something to consider this summer.

    I still feel that Crabbe is easier to replace, either through internal growth (Patty Baseball!), or with one of our three draft picks.

    BNM
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    But that won't fly here. Makes too much sense!
     
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    Because pat has the agility of a grandmother. The only time connaughton is shooting a three is when he is left wide open. He shows no potential off flare screens, etc...something that Crabbe has been awesome at since college.

    As for his "solid" defense, once again I don't see it. He's so slow, he can't keep anyone in front of him. He's just lucky that no ones really isolated him yet. If he had a bigger role, you'd see him exposed.

    I just don't see how he can improve on his weaknesses. Either you have agility or you don't. That being said, he's probably going to stick around another year. I'll give him this; I love his rebounding.
     
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    I guess I don't see either having as much value as you do.
    I'm figuring that we'd have to PAY significantly to dump Turner. I'd say Crabbe can be traded for a SMALL asset.
     
  13. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Easy-peasy. Just go to basketball-reference.com, select the player, click on splits, select 2016-17 and scroll down to All-Star.

    Here's Dame's:

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    The improved shooting percentages, ORtg, DRtg and +/- are all very impressive.

    BNM
     
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    I know about single player splits, but doing a player-to-player comparison is manual and I am teh lazy. I'll do that at lunch though.
     
  15. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Please post it when you do.

    BNM
     
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    It will be interesting to see how ET is used. At times both GS and the Clippers doubled Dame and CJ hard last year and we relied on Plumlee as a relief valve. We might need all 3 on the floor at once for big chunks of time. ET should be getting huge minutes at both SG and SF. Which might mean a few minutes for Napier to help at the point.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Pat looks to be a better rebounder, and is clearly a better ball handler and passer. As much as folks complain about Crabbe's defense, he probably has the edge there, at least when he decides to crank it up. It remains to be seen if Pat is as automatic as Crabbe shooting the ball, but it sure looks like it. For a guy who never plays, it seems like Pat always looks comfortable on the floor, and he seems to have basketball smarts.

    :cheers:
     
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  18. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Who are you even talking to?
     
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    Is Crabbe doing anything else than catch and shoot? It's always nice to have guy coming from the bench and score, but isn't Kyle Korver like 3 times cheaper?
     
  20. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Obviously OP's post is silly, but the more realistic question is whether Pat has shown enough in 2 years to warrant an extension?

    Do we really want to find ourselves in another Crabbe situation in a year?

    He has one more year on his contract, a team option, and then he's a free agent. I wonder if the team has seen enough from him to warrant a cheap extension for a few more years. I would hate to move Crabbe, give Patty more minutes, and then find ourselves in a similar situation that we were in last summer.
     

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