Did we lose the Gary Trent Jr Trade?

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    they are close. Powell of 18M/year; Trent for 17.3M/year

    difference is Powell signed for 5 years and Trent for 3 years so Powell starts out slightly lower

    but my point was that if Portland could afford Powell, they could afford Trent. That's not saying who was the best fit
     
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    Shouldn’t you only count the first 3 years then? Comparing 3 to 5 years is disingenuous as Trent will definitely get another contract, we just don’t know what.

    For the 3 years we KNOW, Powell is getting paid less.

    He MAY get paid more in year 4 & 5, but we don’t know that yet.
     
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    I’m not sure why we wouldn’t have been able to keep him though. Wasn’t he gonna be a RFA?
     
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    so, 500K a year is enough to imply I'm dishonest?

    again, what I was responding too was the statement that Portland could not afford to re-sign Trent...which they obviously could have. Of course, that's assuming Trent would have even received an offer sheet from another team as RFA
     
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    depends which article you read. Some say $54mm over 3 years, some say $52mm. Woj said $54mm, or $18/year.

    Woj is the only source I trust, FAMS.
     
  6. BlayZa

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    i think norm is a better player now for us, but the trade was lateral because we still have this burning desire to not touch CJ so Norm has to play out of position at we end up with a midget 1-3 lineup, yet again.

    we need to (again) move either CJ or Norm (trent) for a starting prototypical SF or PF. not another mini guard.
     
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    Disingenuous doesn’t necessarily mean “dishonest.”
    I think you’re smart. I think you know it’s a little ridiculous to compare a 3yr contract to 5yr contract. Apples and oranges. That’s all. It also started with a question. Maybe there is a reason to legitimately compare 3 vs 5 year contracts.

    my follow up post agreed with you, by the way, where I stated I think he was a RFA so don’t know why he couldn’t have been retained.
     
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    Spotrac seems to be pretty accurate. BB Insiders used to be but they haven't updated for a lot of teams yet

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    that 250K is an 'unlikely incentive'
     
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    actually, smart or not, I simply responded to a post about Trent's contract. I did not take the time to consider all the factors in comparing the two contracts; I just averaged the annual salaries.
     
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    Yes, but would have been a huge gamble.
     
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    not sure gambling on an RFA would have been a bigger one than gambling on a UFA
     
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    Undetermined.

    Reactionary stuff is funny.

    Moving on.
     
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    Norm is closer to being a two way player than Gary.....and Gary's offense was streaky last time he played in Portland...he had a long shooting slump. I'm happy we got Norm.
     
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    They got the promising young guy, we got the proven vet.

    If you assume a "win now" deal was the right path for the Blazers, the deal was a push. Value for value and both teams should be happy.
     
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    No because Powell makes a CJ trade possible. If we don’t re-sign Powell, CJ is a Blazer for life.
     
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    No but we lost the RoCo trade.
     
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    If it had worked out that way, I would whole-heartedly agree. With Olshey it was never going to happen.
     
  18. speeds

    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    It's fun to look at but I wouldn't put too much stock into the DPOY tracker. GTJ isn't even the best defender on his own team (OG, Siakam, and arguably FVV are better).

    GTJ signed a 2+1 deal with Toronto. Next year is his contract year. That'll be the year Toronto judges the deal by extending him or letting him hit free agency.

    For now, I think Powell is giving you more than GTJ would. Probably? It's close. I don't see an L there.
     
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    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    We don't know if Trent would've signed for the same $ he got in Toronto if we kept him. Maybe he would've got much more.
     
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