Dinosaurs and man coexisting

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  1. crandc

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    Never used LSD...

    But back to original topic, magnifier, you have expressed interest in biology/geology classes. May I also suggest population biology? It would answer the question as to why one lone (or two or three) stegosaurus, or bigfoot, or Loch Ness monster, could not survive in some obscure corner of the globe. Very briefly, lack of genetic diversity means the end of a species. It's why endangered species, when they get below a critical number of individuals, are doomed to inevitable extinction. Incidentally, it's also the reason why monoculture in agriculture and stock raising requires huge doses of pesticides/antibiotics, they are all alike, they lose vigor and resistance. And why I think the opponents of GMO foods are attacking the wrong thing; the problem is not anything inherently unwholesome in the individual plant but the continuing loss of genetic diversity. Fascinating subject and highly relevant to real world issues.
     
  2. Denny Crane

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    He was a drug dealer. I jokingly called the place Phil's Pharmacy because he had a lot of pharmaceutical drugs in giant bottles like at the drug store.

    What can I say other than he never came back from it. I read a number of similar stories on drug users' message boards yesterday.

    They also talk about adding strychnine and speed. For one, LSD is difficult and expensive to make. The strychnine has a hallucinogenic effect in low doses. People even do strychnine alone. The speed is to keep you awake for the trip. People taking pure LSD talked about falling asleep during the first 20 minutes and having wild dreams. A lot of the time, people take it again after being sleep deprived from their previous dose.
     
  3. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Very good points and I agree. The best resistance of pests is a healthy plant. Over fertilization, without proper nutrient balance is going to ruin this planet.

    I also understand about "extinction". I do agree that present day is without dinosaurs. I am just thinking it could be a possibility that they existed a couple hundred thousand years ago. The extreme climate change and hunting could have cause species to become extinct. The concept of the animals could be passed down from generation to generation. It may not happened either. I'm just not going to rule it out.

    Gmo modifications can really fuck this planet up. I understand that mutations take place everyday, or we wouldn't get the flu or cold every year. But the mutations are happening at a natural occurrence. When we mutate in a test tube, we aren't taking into account of surroundings and how one mutation can effect the entire ecosystem. Us playing God is very dangerous,IMO
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Have you ever thought the other drugs he had in possession could have caused this mental state? As heroin did to many of the hippy culture of the 60's.

    Also, keep in mind that a blotter of acid can only absorb 2.5mg of components. Speed requires doses of at least 10mg to hit baseline. Taking 1mg wouldn't do anything to you. As for strychnine... This was a wives tale that rumored because some acid would give headaches or back pains. Those are natural side effects on "impure acid". But the impurities were because they didn't spin the impurities of the process out.

    I understand your concern because the urban legends seem as real as the nails on your fingers. But in order to really understand the substance, I hope you take the same advice you tell me every time we debate cosmology. Learn about the substance, reading "pharmacology of LSD". It's a very informative book; compiled of government and medical studies regarding the substance. It isn't biased. It's just information and trials.
     
  6. Denny Crane

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    I know it had nothing to do with his other drugs.

    He told me what he did. it was a huge quantity. We were out on the street at the bars. He went outside and used the pay phone to call an ambulance.

    This is no urban legend.

    I had to deal with his irate mother on the phone and in person. "What was Phil doing all this time? How could you let him!" etc.

    The strychnine is no urban legend. In fact, you may have taken doses thinking it's LSD when it was pure strychnine.

    Mixing the drugs in different amounts changes the quality of the trip as well.

    Strychnine may also be used as one of the solvents in the process.

    But you're the expert.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    And LSD is not expensive to make. It's actually a very cheap process. Although getting the precursor ingredients are watched very closely.

    Understand that a lab the size of a normal bathroom can produce 100,000 hits of potent acid, costing the cool only .10 a hit. That's paying very high costs for precursor chemicals.
     
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    Nope I never took strychnine. It is a very bitter chemical. Anytime any blotter was bitter, I spit it out. Even 10 micrograms of strychnine is extremely bitter to the tongue.

    Did you see the patent process of "sandoz labs"? There is no strychnine in the process.

    I'm not saying your friend didn't take that large amounts. I've heard of people taking that quantity before. But all that I read take it, usually had about a year of recovery from the trauma.

    It's scary as shit on anything larger than 600 micrograms. A full vial has 9.5mg of CID (average hit being 95 mics x 100 hits). The baseline dose is 35 micrograms. That's almost 3,000 times over the baseline dose. You eat only 100 times the amount of baseline of aspirins, you're dead.... That just gives you an understanding on how safe "physically" the drug is to humans.
     
  9. Denny Crane

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    So you had blotter that was bitter and spit it out.

    Urban myth.

    LOL
     
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    Yeah it's called 25 nbome series. A synthesis that came out 10 years ago. There was also another series called DOX compound; which was bitter as well. Both aren't LSD; so no point eating them.
     
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    Denny it's weird that you use Wikipedia so much, yet discard that very same reference about the impossibility of strychnine in blotter. Guess it proves you are no different than I am. If you believe something deep down inside, you will ignore even empirical proof! :)
     
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    There is no impossibility of strychnine in blotter.

    You have no clue where the blotter was before it made its way to your hands. Lots of luck with that.
     
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    Lol at Denny fighting tooth and nail for something he has zero understanding of! Kinda cute really!
     
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    Is it the drugs making you say idiotic things like "zero understanding" ?
     
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    No its your countless efforts to use urban legends as some sort of empirical evidence. Either you give proof of your stupid claim, either in true process or spectrometer results, or shut the fuck up.
     
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    I think it's the drugs.

    You can't tell if they're still working on you or not. That's the whole point.

    Did you witness the LSD you take being made?

    Or do you just trust that some guy in an illegal laboratory is following some patent to the "T"?
     
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    Ah poor baby, you can't give up can you? Even Hoffman's "problem child" book talked about Strychnine. It also talks about the myth of needing strychnine to lay on blotter.

    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_myth5.shtml

    Keep reaching Denny.... Keep Reaching....
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Uncommonly is because it was added by a DA group trying to prove it was poison; which later was refuted. Check the link I've provided.

    LMAO! I love how you went from "Lifetime of Complications", to "Well it has strychnine", to "Uncommonly added by a DA agent to prove it was poison". See the pattern here? LMAO!
     
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    I don't know the particulars, but often if someone does go batty, there are underlying issues. The guy I knew for example who I mentioned above, there was schizophrenia in his family, so who knows if that may have been a contributing cause. Also, who knows if he recovered after several years.

    From my personal life, The most I have done is about 10 hits at a time. 12 to 15 hours later I was back, just tired and groggy. I have other friends who have done 10-25 hits and all are perfectly happy today. One in fact is extremely successful and in charge of about 90 million dollars personally and jointly another 300million.

    Side note, sex on acid is awesome.
     

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