Dirk Nowitzki breaks 50. MVP???

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  1. melo

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    Kobe moved the ball when he had good teamates....
     
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    Kobe wouldn't have to move the ball. They just gave it to Shaq or Kobe and they went 1 on 1. Fortunately for the lakers Shaq shot 60% from the field and scored a lot of points. Take out a player that is 60% from the field and you got the lakers of now.
     
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    Bottom line, guys, I talk about who WINS, not DESERVES...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Waqas @ Mar 30 2006, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, but ANYBODY would know that Dirk has more trust in his teammates than anybody else on the team. He'll always give up the ball to other guys to let them score, as well.</div>Kobe would have more trust in his teammates if they were better.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Mar 31 2006, 01:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe wouldn't have to move the ball. They just gave it to Shaq or Kobe and they went 1 on 1. Fortunately for the lakers Shaq shot 60% from the field and scored a lot of points. Take out a player that is 60% from the field and you got the lakers of now.</div>That team is very different. They lost talent, and they got alot younger. You can't compare those teams at all.
     
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    The MVP is either Steve Nash or Dirk Nowitzki. LeBron has carried his team but he did not have an MVP season, nor did Dwyane Wade. Kobe was great, but his team is what the 7th seed. I don't think he'll win it, but Nash has carried his team with the help of Shawn Marion but without Amare Stoudemire and Dirk has done the same. They're putting up great numbers but it's not on paper what makes them so great its what they do on the basketball court which makes them both MVPs. It'll be a tough descision in the end, this year has so many canditates. It's not Elton Brand, he's played good but he hasn't carried his team like Nash or Nowitzki. He's played great basketball but he's not a MVP this year. His team isn't even that great this season despite being in the 5th spot.
     
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    Kobe won't win it because his team is simply garbage. Leading a team to a contender is better than leading them to a playoff birth, which is why Nash and Nowtizki are prime candidates. Nowitzki is 2n on my list, with Nash at #1
     
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    IMO Dirk Nowitzki isn't a MVP player because he isng the king of player that can be the main guy on a team like a Kobe or some others in the NBA. Dirk is the kind of player that works better when he was another star player alongside him like he had with Nash/Finley last year and like he has now with Jason Terry, Josh Howard and some of the other guys on the team. After all he scored over 30 points in the last 3 games and they lost all 3 of them.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Apr 1 2006, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe won't win it because his team is simply garbage. Leading a team to a contender is better than leading them to a playoff birth, which is why Nash and Nowtizki are prime candidates. Nowitzki is 2n on my list, with Nash at #1</div>Couldn't have said it better myself.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dagameplayer @ Apr 1 2006, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>IMO Dirk Nowitzki isn't a MVP player because he isng the king of player that can be the main guy on a team like a Kobe or some others in the NBA. Dirk is the kind of player that works better when he was another star player alongside him like he had with Nash/Finley last year and like he has now with Jason Terry, Josh Howard and some of the other guys on the team. After all he scored over 30 points in the last 3 games and they lost all 3 of them.</div>that post is nonsense. Dirk is more of an MVP player than Kobe ever has been or ever will be.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Apr 1 2006, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe won't win it because his team is simply garbage. Leading a team to a contender is better than leading them to a playoff birth, which is why Nash and Nowtizki are prime candidates. Nowitzki is 2n on my list, with Nash at #1</div>His team is definitely garbage with a 39-35 record, with Lamar Odom, Smush Parker, Kwame Brown etc. You are probably someone who just listens to the stereotypes that ESPN writers and other people present. if you watch them on their good games, you'll notice how the triangle offense functions greatly with Lamar distributing the ball to Kobe for easy buckets and Kwame chrashing the boards, etc. They need experiance but they are definitely not garbage and I agree Nowitzki and Nash are the MVP candiates but the Lakers team is not garbage and they'll present problems for Phoenix or Denver in the playoffs.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dagameplayer @ Apr 1 2006, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>IMO Dirk Nowitzki isn't a MVP player because he isng the king of player that can be the main guy on a team like a Kobe or some others in the NBA. Dirk is the kind of player that works better when he was another star player alongside him like he had with Nash/Finley last year and like he has now with Jason Terry, Josh Howard and some of the other guys on the team. After all he scored over 30 points in the last 3 games and they lost all 3 of them.</div>Dirk is dominating right now but his teammates aren't helping things. I wouldn't call Josh Howard or Jason Terry star players. They are more like good role players that are built around Dirk. Kobe has never had success being the man. He had to have the most dominant big man to have success. I just feel a team built around a guard in general is bad news. You need a big man. Suns with Amare and Marion, Pistons with Rasheed and Ben, Dallas with Nowitzki, and Spurs with Duncan.
     

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