Disaster - Scott Foster for Game 2

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  1. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Y'all are trippin.

    Scott Foster called a great game last night.

    People gotta stop expecting perfection from human officials.

    Untrue. They were both Excellent calls and easy calls to make.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    You have to understand the rule. I don't think you do.

    Also you do call fouls to make a point. You have to make it plain what amount of contact you're going to allow EARLY.

    You know why they don't call them again is because players have to adjust to officiating.
     
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    What do you know?
     
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    100% agree with @dviss1 every one of Kanter's charge calls last night were legit. Easy calls.
    He needs to jump stop and take the little bunny hook instead of try to get the layup.
    Seems like a pretty simple adjustment to me.
     
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    Yo @H.C. , went to send you a PM but it wouldn't let me. Can you message me? Thanks!
     
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    OK explain the rule to me. Take the Kanter play out of the equation. If a defender stops to take a charge and the offensive player is not out of control and is able to move laterally to avoid running the defender over, why is that a charge?

    As for the illegal picks, sure they adjust for a little bit, but by the 2nd half they are back to doing them again. Its like offensive holding in football you could call it on almost every play if you wanted to .

    Also on Kanter's last charge, if the defender was in the restricted area was it still a charge?
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Couple things. I didn't see the restricted line. Step on it and it's blocking no matter what.

    Block charge is actually an easy call to make. First the referee must have an open look. This referee is stacked and looking at asses and elbows. Think of our view:

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    A referee asks themselves 2 questions:

    Is the defender legal? (both feet facing the offense while squarely in front. The defense may move to maintain legal guarding position)

    Does the offense go TO and THROUGH the defender?

    Affirmative answers to both questions = Charging.
    Any negative answer = Blocking

    I believe both calls were good calls.
     
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    Here's the thing: You CAN move... until there is illegal contact.

    An illegal screen is a foul so moving or not, there has to be illegal contact. Now the referee also had to determine if the screener is rolling fundamentally or using his roll to gain an advantage.

    This call, next to traveling, is the most inconsistent call in the NBA.
     
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    Overall I thought the refs were ok, they were letting both teams get away with a lot, but thats the playoffs. I thought PG or Grant(?) had one really obvious charge or travel that or something... That shouldve been called, and of course there were a few calls that couldve gone both ways, but the officials did alright in my opinion.

    I guess as a Blazer fan I didn't like the goal-tend call on ML, but overall I thought the refs were alright.
     
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    Also and no offense to our refs in here, the game was called well enough that I don't think the officiating should be part of the discussion in this game. Which is a compliment the game shouldn't be about the referees in my opinion and the officials didn't do anything that overshadowed the game.
     
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    OK thanks for confirming that I do know the rule. :D

    Keep in mind I said both plays could have gone either way, not that they were bad calls.
    The reason I say that was when I went back at the timeout and looked at the last foul on Kanter.....(and I watched it about 5 times) I felt the defender's heal was squarely on the line. Again I do not expect the refs to see it in real time, but none the less that is why I said it could have gone either way. Certainly not an "easy call to make".

    As for foul #3 (in the 2nd quarter) I felt like Kanter went TO the defender but not Through. (He took a step to his left and put up the shot to draw the foul) I am probably wrong on that particular play but I hate when the offensive player is starting to step to the side of the defender instead of running through him, but the defender flops and they call a charge. I just hate the rule. I think it should be no-call.
     
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    A referee should only put air in his whistle when he's completely sure.

    Those decisions split seconds.

    If the call could've gone either way IMO it's a bad call.
     
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    IMHO there were no flops on any of those plays.
     
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    Rewatching the game right now. Forgot about the flop by Adams in the 3rd at the 7:50 mark against Harkless. I did not realize how much Adams flops. He and Nurk would have been fun to watch.
     
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