Science Do I need to be afraid of 5G?

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    In the future the breathalyzer will be used to find out if you have enough alcohol in your blood to be around people! Who'da guessed!
     
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    There is a lot of research on the subject. This was studied by the largest professional organization in the world, the IEEE, Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers some 30 or 40 years ago and thoroughly debunked. This is the sort of stuff the feeble minded fall for.
     
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    I wouldn't worry a lot unless the radiation is gamma rays or excessive ultra violet leading to an orange hue on the skin.
     
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    They debunked 5g myths 40 years ago? Lol I might need a link for that claim.
     
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    The body requires salt.

    don't everyone go buy out the shelves of epson and funnel the boxes down the throat now......
     
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    Here's what I found more recently about 18 years ago.

    https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/989978

    The older studies I found were published in the IEEE's magazine, Spectrum. I read it back when I was a member of IEEE so long ago that I don't recall the exact date in an issue of Spectrum. You can also get several different monthly abstracts but they were expensive and I didn't waste my money on them. Spectrum is the general IEEE magazine that every member gets included in their membership.

    I'm not asking you to take my word for it point blank. I'm asking you to consider my technical background and my ethical standards that prevent me from lying about such technical matters. I'm giving you my word that I recall reading the article which made it very clear that they considered the kind of microwave radiate that we faced from cell phone towers to be negligible at best. I think they presented it as a non existent problem.

    The IEEE is the very best at revealing the technical issues of cell phone tower microwave radiation.

    When I worked at Tektronix we built a microwave signal generator by the thousands for use in calibrating test and measurement microwave equipment. I was tasked with optimizing the cavity generator of this instrument. i was exposed to that radiation for years with none of the ill effects attributed by the alarmists about microwave radiation.

    While in Vietnam, I was ordered by a stupid sergeant to trim the grass around a microwave focal point emitter but that was for very powerful microwave that can fry your gonads or even severely burn your body. I refused the order and nothing came of it. Radar is microwave but you wouldn't get close to that because of the power level.

    If you don't want to believe me then we'll just have to drop it there because I can't look up a Spectrum article that old. Maybe someone else can locate a credible article on the subject.
     
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    I'll bet you never installed it internally in anyone's body.
     
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    Paging Sir Isaac. Sir Isaac to a courtesy phone.
     
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    I read on Buzzfeed that that's one of 27 Newtonian myths that were totally DEBUNKED by Einstein.

    And we're not calculating the effects of quantum mechanics. It's hard to take seriously any scientific observation that doesn't take into account relativity OR quantum mechanics. I'd like to believe the inverse square law, but we could be making this calculation much, much more difficult.
     
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    I believe the correct word is not myth, but 'rounding'. Einstein's theories and formulas become Newtonian formulas when you are away from the calculus approaching zero elements. At the speeds / distances we observe as normal people, most of the complicated stuff in Einstein's general theory of relativity can be rounded off as (0 * complicated stuff).
     
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    I agree, it was a joke. That's why I said "we could be making this calculation much, much more difficult" with no added benefit, as though the added difficulty was an inherent benefit.

    All of (or at least most of, but I think all) Newtonian physics can be recalculated using the math of relativity or even quantum physics, but it's entirely pointless for most problems we deal with on Earth. But technically, Newtonian mechanics are an older model that's very slightly less precise.

    Admit it, my joke got funnier after two paragraphs of explanation.
     
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    Its worth exploring.
     
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    Of course I admit it. I am probably the only one strong enough to still be upright and able to type! everyone else is just gasping for air holding to their side. ;)
     
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    No need to call an expert for a simple equation that I first learned in high school physics when I was 17. Surely there is no one in here who couldn't understand high school physics.
    It's called the inverse square law and I'm including a link to a wikipedia discussion of how it works. Our problem with microwave energy can be exampled in the section dealing with Electrostatics:
    "Electrostatics
    The force of attraction or repulsion between two electrically charged particles, in addition to being directly proportional to the product of the electric charges, is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them; this is known as Coulomb's law. The deviation of the exponent from 2 is less than one part in 1015.
    F = kq1q2/r2"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law
     
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    Let me know how you configure it. This is going to net you a Nobel prize.
     
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    You know, just because Trump happens to mention something in passing doesn’t make it nuclear waste. A lot of these TDS types have a serious problem with going way overboard with their nitpicking of his statements. He’s probably already forgotten he even said it, meanwhile UV light now causes hair loss, cancer and lepracy according to all the professional outrage spreaders.
     
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    Should we be concerned about the number of satellites we put into space?
     
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