Do we need a third star?

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  1. OneLifeToLive

    OneLifeToLive Well-Known Member

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    Agree. I think we do a trade with New York. Just not one with Carmelo.
     
  2. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    What?
     
  3. OneLifeToLive

    OneLifeToLive Well-Known Member

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    huh?
     
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    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    You think we should do a trade with the Knicks and Carmelo would be happy in Portland but you don't want him here?
     
  5. OneLifeToLive

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    Look through the thread BG, I don't endorse a deal for Carmelo. I was responding to different posts by different posters with different thoughts

    I don't think he would nix a deal to Portland. I wouldn't want him on this team.

    But what do I know?
     
  6. BlazerCaravan

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    Hopefully we can pick up a third star that wears a whistle, because all the other good teams have one.
     
  7. ponderguy

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    A'mare is averaging 9.5 ppg and 4.5 RPG this year and is only playing 19 mpg. He is hardly a second superstar at this point in his career yet he is still making more than Melo is. JR Smith is getting 13 ppg on 37% shooting. He is not a guy you can count on consistently at all. He started the season off with a drug suspension and has been very streaky. You cannot rely on him to be your number 2 guy. he is a heatcheck guy much like a nick young or jamal crawford. he makes melo look like a competent defender as well. Tyson Chandler is not his former self, he has been injured quite a bit for NY and has clearly lost a couple steps just from his Mavs days. Jason Kidd was 39 years old when he played with him and was only contributing 6 ppg and 3 apg. You're acting as if he is playing with the A'mare Stoudemire of the Suns, Mavs era Chandler and the Nets version of Kidd and not getting it done. These guys are all old and shells of their former selves. You seem to have an issue with him having a model for a wife but she has come out over and over saying she doesn't care where he plays one bit and she doesn't control that. She is smalltime compared to Melos career.
     
  8. craigehlo

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    We'll you are partially correct. We need a player that can manufacture points at the FT line, especially in tough games. Wes averages 3.2 attempts (worse average than dudes like Alec Burkes and Rodney Stuckey) and Batum averages 2.7 (behind players like Derrik Williams and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist). We need an upgrade at one of those spots in aggressive offense that gets more attempts. I would also make opposing defenses think twice about pressuring LA and Dame too much since our wing players tend to mainly shoot long jumpers as the line up is currently composed.
     
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    I agree, the Knicks are a mess and they've all regressed around Melo...still they were all superstars paid money to go to one of the biggest markets on the planet and they composted. Scientific method! I don't like Melo or want him here or his wife and I'll give you this, I don't know her and I read she wanted to live in NY for her career, so if you have other info on her motivation, good on ya mate. No issue with any of them.
     
  10. Blazer4ever

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    You bring Melo here and this becomes a Melo-team and starts underachieving.
    We started losing when Nic got hurt and IMO letting him still play with those nagging injuries instead of letting him rest/heal hurts us right now and hurts us in the long run. With Nic at 100% we are arguably the best team in the league, right now Nic is at 60% and we are not better than if he wasn't playing.
    Indiana beat us without Stephenson, OKC beat us without Westbrook, Miami without Lebron, we'd lose some games without Batum but also win some and I don't think our record would be much worse than with an injured Batum lately, the thing is when he comes back healthy we're contenders and if we keep playing him injured he won't get healthy and we wouldn't be contenders.
     
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    "I definitely think he will stay [in New York],” La La said in her interview. “I know that he wants to stay and I support him wherever he wants to go. Listen, I used to live in Denver with him. If I can live in Denver, I can live anywhere. I just want him to be happy.”

    http://network.yardbarker.com/nba/a...nksrc=story_article_yb_original_head_15644432
     
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    That's just nutty talk.

    As for Melo, he's NEVER going back to a small market team. If he doesn't re-up in NYC, he'll force a sign and trade to the Clipps.
     
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    OKC has beat a lot of teams without Westbrook... Miami has beaten a lot of teams without Lebron... Hell, I think the game with Miami without Lebron was before the finger. Shit happens.
     
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    Acting like Denver is so awful.. If you lived there you can live ANYWHERE? These spoiled cvnts are ridiculous.
     
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    Manu is a good player, Nate. He is not a star.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    He was a few years back. He's not anymore. I think the point still stands.
     
  17. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    How many times has he been an All-Star? He's the very definition of a third star. He's not a LeBron, he's not a Duncan or a Parker, but he's an All-Star caliber player. Batum or Wes might end up being that guy, but at this point it's hard to say.
     
  18. OneLifeToLive

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    I disagree he is a star. Not a 'super' but he is a star. In the same mold Damian is at the moment. In time that could grow.
     
  19. MAS RipCity

    MAS RipCity Mercy, Mercy

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    I go back and forth on this topic. On one hand, we're unstoppable when Nic and Wes are at their best. You can't double when Wes is hitting momentum 3's. And there's nothing stopping Nic when he putting up triple-double numbers. But they've both been sporadic since Christmas and I don't think its a coincidence why we're losing. Those two are our X-Factors.

    I'm not saying Melo is the answer but LA and Dame can't always be on, every single night. We need a legit third option scoring the basketball.
     
  20. MickZagger

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    McCollum might be that guy.
     

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