Do you believe in the power of prayer?

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  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Major Ed Dames! Hahahahahaha! That guy was such a freak.
     
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    I remember actually trying some remote viewing exercises to see if I could see any validity. I couldn't. But man that was fun. I always wondered how he found so many fellow freaks. My favorites were the alien conspiracy folk, ones claiming to have worked at Area 51, and stuff like that.
     
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    Bob Lazar! He told a really good story!

    You remember Mel's Hole in Washington? Or that guy from the Philadelphia Experiment? Most of those guys were crackheads but some could really spin a hell of a story. Art Bell was where I first heard Michio Kaku and Zahi Hawass.
     
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    No. But, I believe in the power of love.
     
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    Yep, I remember Michio too, and do you recall terence mckenna? Before the Internet, this was really the only place to hear suh odd fellows. Now, most of them are pretty standard.
     
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    Sly, do you recall what the issues were with Bell, his son and the law? I forget, but there was some strange in Arts life too.
     
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    If I remember right a male teacher with aids raped/molested his son.
     
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    I never knew how much of those stories were true or his paranoia.
     
  9. SlyPokerDog

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    No clue, I was really creeped out when is wife died and a month later he's in the Philippines marrying a 17yr old.
     
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    Someone needs to make the Art Bell Movie.
     
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    Here is art bells statement when he retired
     
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    First, power of prayer to do what? Problem with religious "discussions" is they don't define terms.

    ABM is using the circular argument of claiming the bible is true because the bible says so.

    There are people of deep faith who have prayed fervently, desperately, for things big and small. For their sports team to win, for the life of a loved one to be spared, for the rapes to just stop already. If they get what they want it's because god answered their prayers. If they don't it's because god works in mysterious ways. It's like a crooked gambling game where the house always wins. Either way, god is declared the winner.

    One of the most revolting things I ever read was Francis Collins, in The Mind of God, trying to find divine justification for his daughter being raped. He finally decided it was to teach him parents can't always protect their children, also to give her compassion for all the other women to whom god sent rapists. What kind of evil vicious vile god would arrange for a woman to be raped to take down her father's pride? Not one I'd ever worship.

    God is always good, ABM? Sure, that's why he gave us the slave trade and Holocaust - both sanctified by Christian clergy.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    It's not a circular "argument" at all. Simply put, it's what I believe to be true...despite what anybody else chooses to believe. I believe the God of the Bible created the heavens and the earth. Therefore, I believe all that is contained in the Bible, itself. If someone else chooses not to agree with me, that's their choice. I'm not making attempts to win any debates/arguments.

    No question in my mind, God is always good. Sin isn't, though. We live in a sinful world. Man is desperately wicked, in need of a Savior. That's why Jesus came to this earth...to save sinners. I'm glad that He saved me. :)
     
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    You know, the Power of Love is a curious thing. It can make one man weep, another man sing. It can change a hawk to a little white dove. It's more than a feeling, that's the power of love!


    btw, I loved Art Bell. Funny, weird and creepy all in one. but when his 12th wife died and he was already marrying some young high school(ish) aged Filipino? That just kind of made me think he was super creepy. Or she was demented. Seriously, the guy makes Larry King look handsome.
     
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    there are numerous accounts of prayer or faith providing the brain with the ammunition to fend off all sorts of maladies, mind over matter

    whether god has anything to do with it is anyones guess
     
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    "Only The Good Die Young" by Billy Joel

    Come out Virginia, don't let me me wait
    You Catholic girls start much too late
    But sooner or later it comes down to fate
    I might as well be the one
    They showed you a statue and told you to pray
    They built you a temple and locked you away
    But they never told you the price that you pay
    For things that you might have done...
    Only the good die young

    You might have heard I run with a dangerous crowd
    We ain't too pretty, we ain't too proud
    We might be laughing a bit too loud
    But that never hurt no one
    Come on Virginia show me a sign
    Send up a signal I'll throw you the line
    The stained-glass curtain you're hiding behind
    Never lets in the sun
    Darling, only the good die young

    You got a nice white dress and a party on your confirmation
    You got a brand new soul
    And a cross of gold
    But Virginia they didn't give you quite enough information
    You didn't count on me
    When you were counting on your rosary

    They say there's a heaven for those who will wait
    Some say it's better but I say it ain't
    I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
    Sinners are much more fun...
    You know that only the good die young

    You say your mother told you all that I could give you was a reputation
    She never cared for me
    But did she ever say a prayer for me?
     
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    Geez! SlyPokerDog is one fu*ked up dog. The Slave trade was mans creation. Holocaust pretty much by another man and his henchmen. But I will see if I can put in a good word for you.

    Heh heh! Don't wait on it though.
     
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    god created scabies

    what a dick
     
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    Do I believe........ I USED to! I prayed EVERY fucking night for the past 2 months that you'd stop making these ASS-FUCK threads! Were my prayers answered.......nope.
     
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