<div class="quote_poster">Quoting THE DREAM:</div><div class="quote_post">that's because Magic has 5 rings, and made big plays to get those rings....Dirk is ringless.....bad comparison...no....really bad comparison...</div> Its not a comparison. Its a point. No player has been completely perfect in the playoffs. But nobody judges them on their one or two bad efforts when there's so many other performances that show the exact opposite. Dirk's clutch performances still vastly outweigh his bad ones.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You've made bad comparisons and unfounded statements in this thread...</div> seriously yes Magic played bad in a couple of series, but for the MOST part the guy brought it when he had to (as evidence in his 5 rings)....the same goes for MJ...yes he turned the ball over against the Magic, but no one ever questioned these guys "toughness"....seriously the dallas paper, fans (some dallas fans I know personally), radio hosts, fucking Nancy Lieberman are even questioning this guys "leadership" ability....Kobe and D Wade are out in the 1st round, but none of us will ever start a thread on those guys being "mentally soft" in big game situations, even if they miss a couple of shots in big playoff games.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Dirk's clutch performances still vastly outweigh his bad ones. </div> in the playoffs in "big" games????...I really don't know if this statement is true..
<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">seriously yes Magic played bad in a couple of series, but for the MOST part the guy brought it when he had to (as evidence in his 5 rings)....the same goes for MJ...yes he turned the ball over against the Magic, but no one ever questioned these guys "toughness"....seriously the dallas paper, fans (some dallas fans I know personally), radio hosts, fucking Nancy Lieberman are even questioning this guys "leadership" ability....Kobe and D Wade are out in the 1st round, but none of us will ever start a thread on those guys being "mentally soft" in big game situations, even if they miss a couple of shots in big playoff games.</div>Yeah but Kobe's decision making can't hold the jockstrap of Dirk's decision making
<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">seriously yes Magic played bad in a couple of series, but for the MOST part the guy brought it when he had to.</div> Lol, yeah....I think I'm about done with this thread. DREAM got me beat.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah but Kobe's decision making can't hold the jockstrap of Dirk's decision making</div> I don't know, seriously I'd take Kobe down the stretch over Dirk anyday of the week.....
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Lol, yeah....I think I'm about done with this thread. DREAM got me beat</div> I had you beat when you brought up Dirks name with Larry Birds, lol....
<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I had you beat when you brought up Dirks name with Larry Birds, lol....</div>Dream, all of your arguments, your talk about mental this and that, and Magic, and all this other stuff, in this thread do not make up for the fact that you called it that Dirk would choke, he didn't, so you LOSE. Maybe you can get me back for Game 6... but i seriously got to go, my girl is like "what are you doing?" haha
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Dream, all of your arguments, your talk about mental this and that, and Magic, and all this other stuff, in this thread do not make up for the fact that you called it that Dirk would choke, he didn't, so you LOSE. Maybe you can get me back for Game 6.... </div> that's because the mental aspect of the game is huge....I remember Del Harris (I believe) stating that Dirk gets too down on himself when he plays bad....Dirk even admitted this this season.....he even admitted to being somewhat "weak" when it came to pressure situations (I wish I could find the exact quote)....you guys can gloat now, but I GUARANTEE you that before this post season is over that Dirk will show his true colors.
<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">that's because the mental aspect of the game is huge....I remember Del Harris (I believe) stating that Dirk gets too down on himself when he plays bad....Dirk even admitted this this season.....he even admitted to being somewhat "weak" when it came to pressure situations (I wish I could find the exact quote)....you guys can gloat now, but I GUARANTEE you that before this post season is over that Dirk will show his true colors.</div> Like when you said the Heat would come back from 3-0 or how they would at least win Game five? Lol man come on.
The Dream how's that crow taste? LOL Even you have to admit for at least one game, Dirk came up clutch. He scored 8 straight points, blocked a shot, created an offensive rebound opportunity by fighting Matt Barnes for a rebound, and made his free throws down the stretch to ice the game.
Dirk has hit big shots in numerous clutch situations. We tend to remember things we want to remember, and forget what we want to forget.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Like when you said the Heat would come back from 3-0 or how they would at least win Game five? Lol man come on.</div> that was more of a prediction, and a "gut" feeling, this is more of a fact that this guy has a history of choking in clutch situations.. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Dirk has hit big shots in numerous clutch situations. We tend to remember things we want to remember, and forget what we want to forget. </div> in the playoffs against the best competition in huge games???...the layup against SA is really the only thing that comes to mind.....anyone who gets to the finals and chokes it up for the entire series = soft and weak minded....we'll just have to agree to disagree, because if my life was on the line Dirk would be one of the last people I'd trust in a big game. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Even you have to admit for at least one game, Dirk came up clutch</div> exactly "one" game, compared to the other 4 where he stunk it up....that's not a good ratio (for all you stats gurus)
<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">that was more of a prediction, and a "gut" feeling, this is more of a fact that this guy has a history of choking in clutch situations.. </div> You said you knew the Heat would win game 4. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> exactly "one" game, compared to the other 4 where he stunk it up....that's not a good ratio (for all you stats gurus)</div> Dirk played pretty good in Game 4. I wouldn't be going toe-to-toe with durvasa either seeing as you have been very vague on many of your objections.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You said you knew the Heat would win game 5. </div> yes I predicted they'd win game 4.....and???...can I be wrong on a prediction....Dirk being soft isn't a prediction...it's based on actual happenings in the past and in the present. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Dirk played pretty good in Game 4. I wouldn't be going toe-to-toe with durvasa either seeing as you have been very vague on many of your objections.</div> "pretty good" isn't gonna get it done in the playoffs....that's exactly my point....
<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">"pretty good" isn't gonna get it done in the playoffs....that's exactly my point....</div> How do you know pretty good won't get it done in the playoffs? What are you even talking about? You just said he was stinking it up in games 1-4. Talk about exaggerating. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> yes I predicted they'd win game 4.....and???...can I be wrong on a prediction....Dirk being soft isn't a prediction...it's based on actual happenings in the past and in the present.</div> And you ignore various situations when he hasn't been soft.
seriously for an MVP candidate and the leader of his team, yes he was "stinking it up".....you should never consistently play "pretty good" in a playoff series if you're the supposed MVP.....for God sakes the man was averaging 20 points a game in the series (at around 40% shooting) and falling away from guys who were shorter than him before the last 2 minutes of last nights game.......like I said I'll agree to disagree on Dirks softness with you guys because there are PLENTY of fans, media, and basketball experts who feel the same way.....
