Does Joel get favoritism in offense over Oden

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  1. hasoos

    hasoos Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. And from what I have noticed, Oden performs much better on defense if you get him involved on offense.
     
  2. Mediocre Man

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    Yes.


    This team is so misguided, it's not even funny.


    I spoke to a friend of mine, who happens to be a scout for the Rockets, and he said "It amazes me that Portland doesn't take more of an advantage of Oden on offense when he is on the floor." He said, "They seem to favor the pick and roll with Przybilla, but can't seem to get away from their jump shooting offense when Oden is on the floor." (That is almost word for word)

    He said teams attack Oden on defense for a reason, and it's because teams don't want to have to double him on offense and leave one of the others open.


    So when I bitch about Nate, and others, it's not entirely uneducated bitching.
     
  3. BlazerWookee

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    Nobody defends Joel the way they defend Greg. There is always someone lurking near the passing lanes with an eye towards the ballhandler, looking to disrupt the entry pass to Greg. This gets even worse when our outside shooters aren't hitting. When Joel is on the floor, everybody plays their own man a little tighter because they know Joel isn't anywhere near the offensive threat that Greg is.
     
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    Every time you see him open, freeze it and look at the other defensive players on the floor. Most of the time, there is someone near the passing lane with eyes locked on the ballhandler.
     
  5. hasoos

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    That is why they invented the lob. So the taller player can go get it, and smaller players cannot. Also I disagree with what you are saying. I have tickets at Mid Court at the perfect angle to see every play develope before it actually happens on the court. He is open a lot without getting passed to, and nobody in in the lane.
     
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    I think it's because Joel doesn't get the attention from the opposing defense as Greg does.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Don't want to name drop, but I pay good money for an ex-nba player and coach to train my son one on one. Obviously, he is a Laker fan, since we do live 1 hour away from L.A., but when he heard I was a die hard Blazer fan, he started watching their games.

    Last week, he almost said the same damn thing. It was like "Hey since you are so keen on the Blazers, I wanted to see what all the fuss was about (this being me saying how gloriously awesome my Blazers will fuck his team up). So I've watched the last 5 games (SAS, Minny, Memphis, Minny, Charlotte) and saw something really disturbing. I really thought Oden didn't have an inside game. I read the scouting reports that he was so raw on the offensive end, but that cat has great moves. Why aren't you going to him more?"

    So I was telling him about foul trouble and Nate wanting him to be at full energy for the 4th. He said that's backwards thinking, especially when you have a 4th quarter player like Roy. He said big men set the tone of the game in the first 2 quarters. If you don't utilize them then, you can't open the game up for the perimeter players.

    Anyways after a long convo, he told me we need a new coach. He doesn't think Nate is the right man for the job.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Mmmm....could be! :) (I was watching a tiny choppy computer feed.) I still say he was too far under the basket and the correct pass was to Oden for the dunk.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    The best I've seen the team look this year was when Miller was allowed to direct the offense. What was his favorite play? Feed the post.

    It's elementary.
     
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    I have more examples as well, and I think people would honestly be shocked at how "experts" feel about the job Nate has done with Oden and our offense.

    It is backwards by the way. I coach at the elite level of Jr high and highschool, and I even know that you pound the paint early and often, and then let Brandon take over when the bigs are out of the game in the fourth.
     
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    You're preaching to the choir brother! :cheers:
     
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    Brandon Roy has played more NBA games than you.
    Quick and Nate also think you're clueless.

    Learn the game, then post.

    (Did I do that right?)
     
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    Perhaps Nate is similar to the Cav's Mike Brown.

    Great defensive coach. Not so much on offensive.

    He was an Olympic coach, after all.
     
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    It's needs to be more smart ass and less intelligent.

    Then yeah, you would have successfully replicated that type of post.

    I real good try, though.
     
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    How far up do you sit? Just curious...
     
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    I think that is true. Although I think Nate's greatest asset is to get his team to believe and play hard for him. Once players tune him out, his value of a coach is all but gone.

    Nate realizes this and the potential for players to start tuning him out . . . I personally think that is why he does one year contracts.
     
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    Nate's Blazers were 2nd in the NBA in offensive efficiency last season, right behind Phoenix.

    That said, I know stats mean nothing around here, so I digress.
     
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    You forgot Checkmate!!!!!
     

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