Does Olshey thinks we are idiots?

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  1. Blazers Roy

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    They actually had a winning season without Kawai and took a game from GS in the playoffs.
    If they can bring another good player or two like VanVleet in this trade then they'll definitely have a chance to make some noise next year with Pop as their coach.
     
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    I am sure that he needs the approval of this board and that's why he called Woj.

    - Hey Woj, Gronk and some others geeks are mad at me. Can you please write that I am trying to land Kawhi?
    - Of course "league source".

    It doesn't work that way, trust me.
     
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    Vanvleet just got resigned.
     
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    So if Raptors got Leonard for Derozan, the Blazers could have had him for CJ. Damn you Neil
     
  5. Blazers Roy

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    Oh yea, he was signed undrafted right?
     
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    Bruh, what type of logic is this? Derozen is better, and they're getting back more. And he'd leave Portland after we lose in the semis...

    Smh.
     
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    That is probably in accurate. Popovic is on record as saying he did not want to trade him to a West Conf. Team. I’m thinking they went Toronto so that they could send him back east.
     
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    Vanvleet...he wasn't on a rookie contract, that's why he just signed a regular one.
     
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    I disagree that DeRozan is better than CJ.

    https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.fcgi?id=WZY5E

    He's 2 years older.

    He's a free throw whore.

    CJ is a SIGNIFICANTLY better three point shooter. 40% compared to only 31%.

    DeRozan had a higher USG% but only averaged 1.5 more ppg. DeRozan is their number one option on offense. But he barely averaged more points, and that's because CJ is a shooter. I think if you put CJ into an offense that utilizes him as their primary scorer, he could average 25+ ppg. Easily.
     
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    Your statistical analysis is beyond flawed:

    Getting to the line is a skill, and FTs by good FT shooters are the most efficient shot. Derozen shoots 5 FTs for every 2 CJ shoots. You somehow turned that into a negative against Derozen, which shows bias.

    You're taking a stat that isn't affected by min per game (usage rate) and using it to judge a stat that is affected by min per game (which is PPG). That's an error in sampling. FYI - Derozen gets 3.1 more points per 36 (the same difference in their usage rate), and does so more efficiently (55.5 TS% compared to 53.6 TS%).

    His usage rate is also affected by a slightly higher amount of turnovers, but he has more responsibility creating assists, which aren't factored into usage. His AST/TOV ratio is much better than CJs (2.36 compared to 1.79). Derozen is a much better playmaker for others than CJ is.

    The result of this shows another advanced stats:
    OFFENSIVE BOX PLUS-MINUS:
    DD - 2.7
    CJ - 1.4

    OFFENSIVE WIN SHARES:
    DD - 6.8
    CJ - 3.7

    Derozen's also (likely) a better defender.

    Poeltl is also as good of a prospect as Collins. So it seems to me like you want to believe that we could've traded CJ for Kawhi so that you can justify your annoyance with Olsheys overall inactivity, so you picked certain stats and spun them a certain way in order to do so. I'm annoyed at his inactivity too, but not inn regards to this, since I try to judge everything fairly and unemotionally.
     
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    If the comparison is even close San Antonio was going to send him East. So even if you can make the case that CJ is a bit better we weren't going to get Kawhi anyway. There is nothing Olshey could do other than offer Dame.
     
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    Olshey's buddies with Woj? Wow, I have newfound respect for him!
     
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    Can they trade VanVleet?
     
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    To be fair yes he's about as useful as Maris is on this forum.
    But at least Maris is good at being a troll.
    The other guy isn't so much as he gets butthurt very easily.
     
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    Gee, just what this forum needs is another bash Olshey thread. If he reads this forum, then yes, he probably thinks there are lots of idiots.
     
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    Listen to the way he talks in these SL interviews or in press conferences.

    He's an ass and is always condescending.

    So yes.
     
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    Neil is a coward... scared to take a risk... that is why this team will never go to the next level. Toronto GM knows when to shake things up... Raptors were much better than the Blazers but had plateaued so he made a major move to shake things up... Neil would rather go with the status quo because it’s safe and the team is just good enough to make playoffs to keep most stupid fans happy... even tho over half the teams make playoffs... not really an accomplishment if you can’t win a playoff game... but people will keep buying tickets and Neil will keep his job... so it will continue to be status quo
     
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    Well I am sure he thinks some of us are idiots. I know I do. (And yes I am sure some think I am as well.)
     
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    I'm certain Olshey could sing a splendid version of the Star Spangled Banner and you would be annoyed and think he was singing it in a very condescending voice.
     
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