It’s not about misinformation. I just don’t want the vaccine. Guess what? I don’t get the flu or pneumonia vaccine either and if I get either of those I’ll probably die and/or end up in critical care — again. I also don’t take prescription pills. When I had (minor) surgery I told them NO PAINKILLERS. I’ll deal with it. Just because other people are pussies doesn’t mean I’ll burn myself to keep others warm. I don’t give a flying fûck about the side effects. I don’t want it. so if the vaccines aren’t perfect what the fuck is the point LOL THE WHOLE WORLD CAN BE VACCINATED AND MY DECISOON WONT MATTER IF THATS TRUE and the vast majority of people who want to be vaccinated are you’re acting like this is day 3 of the pandemic when it’s day like 600 the only people who have a legitimate case are children and their parents should keep them away from major fûcking events then siiiiiiiimple. still waiting for an argument counter to “just leave ur kids at home since all adults who want to be vaccinated are” Unless your argument is the cacccine doesn’t work then fine but then the vaccine is pointless to begin with
honestly I’m open minded, but no one is giving me facts. they’re saying “lol concerning mindset” “won’t even addrsss this” “well people with the vaccine still are at risk” (which is... a counter argument for the vaccine really) that’s not telling me FACTS and STATS about how me getting vaccinated helps the entire population.
Not true. The more people that are vaccinated, the lower the odds of that 5-10 %'er being exposed. Your string of posts sound anything but open-minded.
There are people who cannot get vaccinated for medical reasons. Unvaccinated people are a threat to them. The vaccine is 95% effective. So 5 out of every people who become vaccinated can still catch covid-19. However, those 5 people will only get a mild case and will not die. Every transmission is another opportunity for the virus to mutate into a strain which could be more deadly and possibly unaffected by the vaccine. We want to avoid those mutations if possible, so as to put this pandemic behind us, rather than extending it.
When you get the flu shot you can still get the flu. same concept. You do you. Just live with the risks and consequences.
Not exactly true. The odds are really low, but per the CDC there have been 132 deaths in breakthrough cases to date:
Kids under 16 haven’t been eligible to be vaccinated up til now. Starting tomorrow kids 12 and older can be vaccinated. Under 12 won’t happen for several months. Even those who are eligible may not have had the chance to get vaccinated for any number of reasons, including having parents who don’t want them to be.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. 9,245 out of over 100,000,000 who have been vaccinated have had breakthrough cases, or 0.0009%. So 99.9991% effective so far. 132 have died, or 0.000132% of those vaccinated. We're literally talking about 1 in a million. 1 in 1,000,000 Around 1 in 700 Americans has already died of covid-19. If that's anywhere close to correct you aren't going to die of covid-19 if you get vaccinated.
Only 5-10% of those 100M would have likely been infected, statistically, so you're basically off by a factor of 10. Still a very good efficacy rate, but that's the same mistake several media outlets have made.
True, that's why I said "so far" and compared the number of dead from covid-19 to the total number of Americans, rather than the total number of infected. In other words, you're far more likely to die if you don't get the vaccine.
It's always the people like this that are the main reasons we are still in this situation a year plus later, that's the ironic part. There's literally a way to get out of this if people weren't so selfish and stubborn but those same people aren't willing to do what is necessary to easily achieve that.
We're getting out of this regardless - and people's opinions on the matter had nothing to do with it taking this long - the vaccine was needed, simple as that. Fortunately it's here and most of us are taking it. Best way forward now is help to convince anyone you know who hasn't gotten the vaccine for whatever reason to go and get it as its now very easy to do. There are some who can't be convinced, but there are others who just need someone to direct them through the noise or the anxiety or whatever. Pick your battles.
In my experience a majority of the people that say the things he said were the same people not following restrictions all along. I know so many people that still gathered in large groups and were anti-mask throughout this whole process and now those people are anti-vax. They don't care about anyone but themselves.
How do people still have this mentality more than a year into this? ugh Must be nice living in a bubble without having family and friends who have died from this. That's the only way people still have this mindset. If it has not affected you in a profound way, why would you care?
still trying to understand ONE valid reason for anyone to not get this. I get this choice bullshit, but there has to be some reason for it. I don't see it in this thread.
