Dolphins coming to town!

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  1. DolfanDale

    DolfanDale Active Member

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ May 2 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale @ May 2 2008, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ May 2 2008, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Agree cpawfan. Every team has cheated, and will cheat, or try, in the future. Of course they will not accept it but it's the truth.</div>

    If it's the truth, then provide the proof. I'm sure that if I made a baseless accusation toward the Patriots, you would be crying for proof. I'm also sure that, if the Patriots had proof that other teams were cheating (especially the Jets), then they would be throwing those teams under the bus.
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    So you believe in the history of the Dolphins they have never gotten away with holding?
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    I'm not going to participate in a moronic debate that equates holding with illegal videotaping. I think I'll save my energy for the 13th. Yeah, that's when Goodell meets with Matt Walsh.
     
  2. cpawfan

    cpawfan Monsters do exist

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale @ May 2 2008, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not going to participate in a moronic debate that equates holding with illegal videotaping. I think I'll save my energy for the 13th. Yeah, that's when Goodell meets with Matt Walsh.</div>

    The only one making that equation is you
     
  3. TheBeef

    TheBeef Commish of FUN!

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    If Pats fans even find their way back from the river 'de nyle, its going to be a ugly sight....
     
  4. DolfanDale

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ May 2 2008, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale @ May 2 2008, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not going to participate in a moronic debate that equates holding with illegal videotaping. I think I'll save my energy for the 13th. Yeah, that's when Goodell meets with Matt Walsh.</div>

    The only one making that equation is you
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    No, you were the one who brought up holding, while we were discussing the Pats illegal videotaping. That's a fact no matter how many of my posts disappear.
     
  5. cpawfan

    cpawfan Monsters do exist

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale @ May 2 2008, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ May 2 2008, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale @ May 2 2008, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not going to participate in a moronic debate that equates holding with illegal videotaping. I think I'll save my energy for the 13th. Yeah, that's when Goodell meets with Matt Walsh.</div>

    The only one making that equation is you
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    No, you were the one who brought up holding, while we were discussing the Pats illegal videotaping. That's a fact no matter how many of my posts disappear.
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    I said every NFL teams cheats and you responded to a response about that.

    Context is important
     
  6. The Return of the Raider

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    for arguements sake, can we just call videotaping a felony, and holding a misdemenor? That is what we all really want to argue about, isn't it?
     
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    players get caught cheating in the moment trying to do their job....only one team has had its management caught in an eloborate web of deceit used to gain an unfair advantage....lifetime ban is the only justice
     
  8. DolfanDale

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ May 2 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale @ May 2 2008, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ May 2 2008, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Agree cpawfan. Every team has cheated, and will cheat, or try, in the future. Of course they will not accept it but it's the truth.</div>

    If it's the truth, then provide the proof. I'm sure that if I made a baseless accusation toward the Patriots, you would be crying for proof. I'm also sure that, if the Patriots had proof that other teams were cheating (especially the Jets), then they would be throwing those teams under the bus.
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    So you believe in the history of the Dolphins they have never gotten away with holding?
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    Here is where YOU brought up holding and proof that your just being difficult because your losing this debate.
     
  9. cpawfan

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale @ May 2 2008, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ May 2 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale @ May 2 2008, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ May 2 2008, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Agree cpawfan. Every team has cheated, and will cheat, or try, in the future. Of course they will not accept it but it's the truth.</div>

    If it's the truth, then provide the proof. I'm sure that if I made a baseless accusation toward the Patriots, you would be crying for proof. I'm also sure that, if the Patriots had proof that other teams were cheating (especially the Jets), then they would be throwing those teams under the bus.
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    So you believe in the history of the Dolphins they have never gotten away with holding?
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    Here is where YOU brought up holding and proof that your just being difficult because your losing this debate.
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    Actually, ROTR mentioned holding before I did in the thread

    Besides that, my original post was talking about all forms of cheating and so was CelticKings. You attempted to limit the discussion to only videotaping types of egregious cheating
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef @ May 2 2008, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>players get caught cheating in the moment trying to do their job....only one team has had its management caught in an eloborate web of deceit used to gain an unfair advantage....lifetime ban is the only justice</div>

    I completely agree that the Patriots and Bill Belichick did not receive enough of a punishment from Goodell.
     
  11. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Play nice, fellas. Cheating of any kind is still cheating.

    I remember living in the SF Bay area when Montana was at the top of his game. The phony whiners were on national TV and Madden was doing his color thing during a slow mo instant replay, praising how great the offensive line was blocking.

    But in slo mo, you could see every one of the linemen were holding and basically outright tackling the defenders. I didn't see any great blocking, just cheating.

    Thing is, the holding was basically condoned by the refs, to protect Montana because he was one of the big stars in the league. The phony whiners were happy to take advantage of this fact and cheated consistently. I don't see this as worse than taping opponents' practices.

    Though any one incident of holding, in general, is a misdemeanor. The taping is not just a player violating an in-game rule, it's the whole organization cheating.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ May 2 2008, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Of course they're not blackadder, they only won a game last season.</div>

    No. Really? Does this make me the Watson to your Sherlock?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ May 2 2008, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would anyone want to live in the US while Europe is much better. [​IMG]</div>
    Europe is better. More enlightened, etc...
    Yet you are here in the US and not over there? hmmmmmm?
     
  14. CelticKing

    CelticKing The Green Monster

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  15. DolfanDale

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ May 3 2008, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm going back BA, going back home. (in a couple of years)</div>

    Where is home? Want to take Belicheat with ya?

    Edit - I feel like I'm asking a question that I should know the answer.
     
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    CelticKing The Green Monster

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    About Belichick, I found out a couple of months ago that his parents came from Croatia. lol
     
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