OT Donavan Mitchell trade watch

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by BigGameDamian, Jul 12, 2022.

Moderators: 7

Moderators

  1. BrianFromWA
  2. Chris Craig
  3. Darkwebs
  4. Ed O
  5. PtldPlatypus
  6. SlyPokerDog
  7. Strenuus
Page 8 of 21
  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    34,275
    Likes Received:
    43,615
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Most of the picks the Knicks own are other teams' protected picks.

    But straight up, if NY wanted Dame in exchange for Barrett/Toppin/Quickley/filler/picks... I'd listen.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Jul 15, 2022
    #141
  2. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,625
    Likes Received:
    16,768
    Trophy Points:
    113
    CJ is like an inch and a half taller than Mitchell but CJ's wingspan is 6'6" and his standing reach is 8'0.5" while Mitchells' wingspan is 6'10 and has a standing reach of 8'4". Also Mitchell is far more athletic than CJ which effectively adds to his size. He also weighs a little more than CJ. So he does have a size advantage.
     
    blazerkor, Jul 15, 2022
    #142
    Eastoff, STOMP, SharpeScooterShooter and 2 others like this.
  3. Ripcity4life77

    Ripcity4life77 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2016
    Messages:
    1,644
    Likes Received:
    1,471
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Zach Lowe is HIGH as BEEP if he believes that the Jazz would even entertain that package he mentioned cause IF the Blazers made that offer Ainge would do ONE of two things --- Fall out of his seat laughing OR just hang up or maybe both.

    I swear outside of Woj the ESPN NBA experts and i use that term VERY VERY loosely is a complete joke for the most part and this is a fact -- lol

    I have some advice for ESPN -- I believe i heard Haynes in a FA maybe they should get him and fire half of the other dolts THEN maybe just maybe the NBA coverage would be passable on ESPN.
     
    Ripcity4life77, Jul 15, 2022
    #143
  4. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    15,259
    Likes Received:
    14,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I agree the Jazz probably don't consider that deal. However, you'll find plenty of Blazer fans think it's a bad deal for Portland because of how much we overvalue our own guys.
     
    Tince, Jul 16, 2022
    #144
  5. Ripcity4life77

    Ripcity4life77 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2016
    Messages:
    1,644
    Likes Received:
    1,471
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If I were the jazz you trade him EAST --

    Also I think Durant and Mitchell IF and when these deals happen are multi team deals cause I am not sure outside of maybe a handful of teams have assets to trade for these type of players.

    My bold but crazy prediction :

    Mitchell ends up in OKC -- they have a shit load of picks and such PLUS they just signed Dort and granted they will have to wait what til Jan or so to trade him ( could be wrong ) but he would be a good starting piece to throw at the Jazz
     
    Ripcity4life77, Jul 16, 2022
    #145
  6. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    6,346
    Likes Received:
    7,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Glad you're not the GM
     
    tykendo, Jul 16, 2022
    #146
    STOMP, BankTeller, EL PRESIDENTE and 2 others like this.
  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,741
    Likes Received:
    55,375
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Six first round picks, unprotected, from the Knicks. Even if they have Dame they would fuck it up. Those picks are worth a lot.
     
    Natebishop3, Jul 16, 2022
    #147
  8. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    6,346
    Likes Received:
    7,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not with Dame on that team, they wouldn't. You underestimate Dame's ability. Those picks would end up being end of 1st. Meh city.
     
    tykendo, Jul 16, 2022
    #148
    Eastoff and Phatguysrule like this.
  9. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    58,575
    Likes Received:
    58,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think he will be moved before the season starts.
     
    Chris Craig, Jul 16, 2022
    #149
  10. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    34,275
    Likes Received:
    43,615
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's fine. I think a young core of Ant/Sharpe/Barrett/Toppin with Quickley/Keon/Walker/Watford would be an excellent and exciting young base for a rebuild. Could be real good real soon-- all of those top 4 have all star potential. Add in several extra picks along with that and we'd be near the top of ESPN's "future rankings" immediately.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Jul 16, 2022
    #150
    Natebishop3 likes this.
  11. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    6,346
    Likes Received:
    7,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sure that team might be decent in 10 years.
     
    tykendo, Jul 16, 2022
    #151
  12. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,741
    Likes Received:
    55,375
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    They aren’t six picks in a row. We are talking about some picks long after Dame is a top 10 talent.
     
    Natebishop3, Jul 16, 2022
    #152
    STOMP likes this.
  13. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    34,275
    Likes Received:
    43,615
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Tough to have a legit conversation with someone making comments like this.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Jul 16, 2022
    #153
    SlyPokerCat, STOMP, Natebishop3 and 1 other person like this.
  14. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    23,701
    Likes Received:
    36,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    if you think it's tough now, wait till I get involved...:)
     
    wizenheimer, Jul 16, 2022
    #154
    PtldPlatypus, Natebishop3 and BBert like this.
  15. noknobs

    noknobs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    4,885
    Likes Received:
    6,235
    Trophy Points:
    113
    As a silent observer I figured the end to a "legit" conversation happened when you gave that trade scenario in which we trade a guy who we can't trade for six months, for three guys making over twenty million less than Lillard, and New York not having "filler" to make it possible unless they trade another of their main guys, all of which puts about 18 guys on our roster as we trade away the best player in our franchise's history.
     
    noknobs, Jul 16, 2022
    #155
    Tince likes this.
  16. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    23,701
    Likes Received:
    36,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    just a review of NY's 1st round pick inventory:

    2023 first round draft pick from Dallas
    Dallas' 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2023, 1-10 in 2024 and 1-10 in 2025; if Dallas has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2025, then Dallas will instead convey its 2025 2nd round pick to New York [Dallas-New York, 1/31/2019]


    2023 first round draft pick from Detroit
    Detroit's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-18 in 2023, 1-18 in 2024, 1-13 in 2025, 1-11 in 2026 and 1-9 in 2027; if Detroit has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2027, then Detroit will instead convey its 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Detroit-Houston, 11/24/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]


    2023 first round draft pick from Washington
    Washington's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-14 in 2023, 1-12 in 2024, 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if Washington has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2026, then Washington will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Houston-Washington, 12/2/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]

    2025 first round draft pick from Milwaukee
    Milwaukee's 2025 1st round pick to New Orleans protected for selections 5-30 or to New York protected for selections 1-4 (Milwaukee's obligation to New Orleans or New York will thereafter be extinguished) (via New Orleans to Portland to Detroit to New York) [Denver-Milwaukee-New Orleans-Oklahoma City, 11/23/2020; New Orleans-Portland, 2/8/2022; Detroit-Portland, 7/6/2022; Detroit-New York, 7/6/2022]


    plus they have all of their own. I sure can see how the value of "Wow...Knicks would trade 6 picks for DM!!!!" could be really deceptive, especially if at least 3 of the 6 picks were from that list of 4. Very well may not even be a lottery pick in the inventory. Knicks apparently rejected it anyway
     
    wizenheimer, Jul 16, 2022
    #156
  17. blazerfan11

    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2019
    Messages:
    10,713
    Likes Received:
    10,832
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What if Dame didn't stay in New York? It's not really place where players end their careers.
     
    blazerfan11, Jul 16, 2022
    #157
  18. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    10,684
    Likes Received:
    2,779
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    Well, he's not top-10 now, so the clock is ticking :)
     
    Ed O, Jul 16, 2022
    #158
  19. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,741
    Likes Received:
    55,375
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Eh we don’t know that. Hard to say until he comes back.
     
    Natebishop3, Jul 16, 2022
    #159
  20. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    34,275
    Likes Received:
    43,615
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Wasn't a proposal... was a hypothetical offer to which I said I'd listen.

    As to the questions of logistics--yes, it wouldn't be able to happen right at this moment, but as for them needing to include a main guy to match salary...I don't believe Fournier qualifies as such, and end of bench guys like Brown and Eubanks could be included by us to balance out the roster quantity issue.

    So was your issue actually over whether or not a Dame to NY trade was logistically feasible or logically reasonable?
     
    PtldPlatypus, Jul 16, 2022
    #160
Page 8 of 21

Share This Page