Politics Dont like the guy...but I like his decision

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  1. calvin natt

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    6 year old boy killed today by Turkish bombings.

     
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    Europe is going to take back 12,000 ISIS fighters? I wonder if the Europeans are aware of this plan.
     
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    Maybe if Mexico is paying for it.
     
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    They should be. It is the word from the Turkish President on what he will do if the EU labels his invasion of the Kurdish lands and invasion.
     
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    I expect this statement from your article is close to stating the actual problem.

    "As a personal quality, this can be trying; in a president, it is dangerous. Trump rejects the careful process of decision making that has long guided commanders in chief.Disdain for processmight be the defining trait of his leadership. Of course, no process can guarantee good decisions—history makes that clear—but eschewing the tools available to a president is choosing ignorance. What Trump’s supporters call “the deep state” is, in the world of national security—hardly a bastion of progressive politics—a vast reservoir of knowledge and global experience that presidents ignore at their peril."

    The military says things like;
    The Kurd's are our allies.
    They fought our fight.
    You don't abandon your allies.
    The Kurd's expected to get a Kurdish territory.

    And I don't say these people are necessarily wrong, but they forget;
    The American President, is not the final word on world affairs. He is in charge of American interest, and the American military, including their safety.

    Some of this friction in the region stems all the way back to WWI and how the countries of Turkey, Iraq, Syria came about, including the lack of a Kurdish country.
    Our taking out Saddam Hussein opened the wound all over again, and here we are, with Troops in the middle east and the President operating on an authorization to use force there, from years ago.

    This authorization has not a damn thing to do with taking on a fight with Turkey. We have not the force there to do so. Trump is spot on! To pull those guy in harms way out of there.
    Perhaps the world, including the US Congress, the US House of representative, should call for stopping the Turks, Nato allies or not, from invading what perhaps ought to be Kurdistan.
    If so then Nancy Pelosi as the Speaker must lead the way to take the US into another war for what ever is the right reasons. Authorize the President to use the full might of the United States to prevent
    the Turks from invading traditional Kurdish territory. She will never think of it though, and neither will most of the liberal Democrats.

    Perhaps they should even unite this nation in calling for the US to take the matter before the UN to establish a Kurdistan which would include redrawing the borders of Syria, Iraq and Turkey. Maybe more. But that of course would undoubtedly require defeating Turkey in war, probably also Syria and Iraq.

    The bottom line, it is totally out of bounds for the US President to take this task on, on his own authority. He was elected to follow the US Constitution, not restructure the middle east.
     
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  7. MarAzul

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    More on this thought later.
     
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    Today:

    Washington (CNN)The Pentagon will deploy about 1,500 extra troops to Saudi Arabia in answer to requests by the leading US military commander in the Middle East and, in part, because the US Navy is unable to send a relief aircraft carrier to deter potential Iranian aggression, multiple US officials tell CNN.

    The move to bolster troops in the Middle East comes as President Donald Trump's decision to pull back US military forces from northeastern Syria has prompted bipartisan criticism from lawmakers who say the President has given Turkey an opening to attack US Kurdish allies who helped in the fight against ISIS.

    The US has increased the deployment of forces in the region by 14,000 since May.
     
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    The troops in Syria are not coming home. No, I've heard they're just being redeployed to another part of Syria.
     
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    but wait I thought hero Trump was bringing troops home like he promised?
     
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    Saudi Arabia is their new home.

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    Marazul is going to be crushed poor guy
     
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    So in the news today, Turkey bombed US forces by accident, and ISIS prisoners have started to escape.

    Things are really going well so far!

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    That's 1,800 new troops. My understanding is the 50 troops in Syria will remain in Syria albeit in another part of Syria.
     
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    whoa, wait a minute. trump announced that he is putting sanctions on Turkey. Well, not really, he just said he was going to put sanctions on Turkey, but no timeline as to when that might (never) happen. Mr. tough guy talks a big game, but walks like a wimp. Must be those nasty bone spurs acting up again.
     
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    Literally true. But I meant Saudi Arabia is the new home for troops generally.

    barfo
     
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    He's got a small stick.

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    fits his tiny hands better.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    You know what they say, small hands, small stick.
     
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    Well Trump has declared he doesn't need a warroom...he'll handle it himself. It's the way he does business....he follows his first instinct...then his second....then his third....then the polls...then all over again.

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