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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ May 28 2007, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Maybe I could've come up with a better one for him but I made that comparasin because both players are swingmen with a great all around ability.</div>
    They are very different, actually. Brandon Roy is a combo guard while Jeff Green is a combo forward (MUCH better suited at the 3 in the NBA, by the way). They are both opportunistic creators, but they are much different physically and Roy is much more of a perimeter option than Green.
     
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    Brandon Roy is more like a Ron Mercer type player, he can score in many ways, but I still think Roy is a better rebounder than Mercer was. Jeff Green, on the other hand, is more versatile than Brandon Roy is. I would compare Green to Marion, they're both versatile players, solid man-to-man defense, and they both have pretty long arms. Marion is a freak athlete, though, while Green isn't a stiff, but can't jump through the roof like Marion can.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ May 28 2007, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Brandon Roy is more like a Ron Mercer type player, he can score in many ways, but I still think Roy is a better rebounder than Mercer was.

    Jeff Green, on the other hand, is more versatile than Brandon Roy is. I would compare Green to Marion, they're both versatile players, solid man-to-man defense, and they both have pretty long arms.

    Marion is a freak athlete, though, while Green isn't a stiff, but can't jump through the roof like Marion can.</div>
    With all due respect, I disagree with this entire post. [​IMG]

    - Brandon Roy and Ron Mercer are VERY different. VERY different. Mercer was a pure scorer and an explosive athlete early in his career, but he really wasn't very versatile and he was pretty one-dimensional. Mercer didn't give much else besides fairly inconsistent scoring, which is why Gerald Green reminds me of Mercer right now (plus I had the luxury of watching Mercer a lot in Boston). Brandon Roy, on the other hand, is nowhere near one-dimensional. He can shoot, he can slash to the basket, and he can pull up off the dribble... but he's also a playmaker who creates for others. He can play the 1 if needed, Mercer was strictly a scorer and nothing more. Roy can do so much more.

    Jeff Green isn't like Marion at all. Green is a versatile SF who is athletic (only similarity to Marion, IMO, is that he is athletic and he plays the 3), but he is a real creator with the basketball as well. This is why I think the Lamar Odom comparison is so spot on, because he's got the size, athleticism, and length but he also has outstanding floor vision and ball handling skills for a guy his size. Hell, Green is even passive creating his own offense like Odom. Green has the potential to be one of those "point forwards" at times, Marion could never be trusted in that way.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ May 28 2007, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>With all due respect, I disagree with this entire post. [​IMG]- Brandon Roy and Ron Mercer are VERY different. VERY different. Mercer was a pure scorer and an explosive athlete early in his career, but he really wasn't very versatile and he was pretty one-dimensional. Mercer didn't give much else besides fairly inconsistent scoring, which is why Gerald Green reminds me of Mercer right now (plus I had the luxury of watching Mercer a lot in Boston). Brandon Roy, on the other hand, is nowhere near one-dimensional. He can shoot, he can slash to the basket, and he can pull up off the dribble... but he's also a playmaker who creates for others. He can play the 1 if needed, Mercer was strictly a scorer and nothing more. Roy can do so much more.Jeff Green isn't like Marion at all. Green is a versatile SF who is athletic (only similarity to Marion, IMO, is that he is athletic and he plays the 3), but he is a real creator with the basketball as well. This is why I think the Lamar Odom comparison is so spot on, because he's got the size, athleticism, and length but he also has outstanding floor vision and ball handling skills for a guy his size. Hell, Green is even passive creating his own offense like Odom. Green has the potential to be one of those "point forwards" at times, Marion could never be trusted in that way.</div>You win. :dribble: [​IMG]
     
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    Kevin Durant = Rashard Lewis with way more potentialGreg Oden = David RobinsonKevin Love = Much tougher and athltic Brad MillerBrandan Wright = Undeveloped Chris Bosh or Dwight HowardAl Horford = Very poor man's Jermaine O'nealThaedus Young = Rookie Tracy McGradyJoakim Noah = Current Tyson ChandlerMike Conley Jr. = Chris Paul...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ May 28 2007, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kevin Durant = Rashard Lewis with way more potentialGreg Oden = David RobinsonKevin Love = Much tougher and athltic Brad MillerBrandan Wright = Undeveloped Chris Bosh or Dwight HowardAl Horford = Very poor man's Jermaine O'nealThaedus Young = Rookie Tracy McGradyJoakim Noah = Current Tyson ChandlerMike Conley Jr. = Chris Paul...</div>Kevin Love isn't coming out in the draft. :doh: Durant and Lewis? And what do you mean with way more 'potential', you're not even using in the right context.Horford is nothing like JO.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ May 29 2007, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kevin Love isn't coming out in the draft. :doh:

    Durant and Lewis? And what do you mean with way more 'potential', you're not even using in the right context.

    Horford is nothing like JO.</div>
    He also compares Wright to Chris Bosh or Dwight Howard... Bosh and Howard are two very different types of players. Wright is nothing like Howard at all. Bosh is a common comparison for Wright, however, and I think it's spot on.
     
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    Greg Oden-Patrick EwingKevin Durant-Carmelo Anthony(probably better defender; if you look at both styles, they play alot alike. Please dont take this wrong and think im comparing because both were incredible freshman)Brandan Wright-IMO, hes like a underdeveloped Tayshaun Prince...thats just me thoughThadeuss Young-Andre IgoudalaAl Horford-Sean May sortveIts hard to put a mark on these players...it isnt as cutout as before draft classes.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ May 30 2007, 12:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Brandan Wright-IMO, hes like a underdeveloped Tayshaun Prince...thats just me though</div>
    I have no idea why you think this way. They are both long and lanky, I guess, but they are two completely different players. Brandan Wright is a 4 with great ability around the basket, Tayshaun Prince is a perimeter player.
     
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    Prince can get on the block, and I think Wright will develop that perimeter game. Maybe not as far back as the 3 line(hence saying underdeveloped) but I think Wright will become a face to basket type of player who can get into that post position. Alot like Tayshaun. But like I said, its hard to compare this draft class.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ May 30 2007, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Prince can get on the block, and I think Wright will develop that perimeter game. Maybe not as far back as the 3 line(hence saying underdeveloped) but I think Wright will become a face to basket type of player who can get into that post position. Alot like Tayshaun. But like I said, its hard to compare this draft class.</div>
    Prince can get on the block a little bit, but he is still a VERY different player than Wright. Prince is a perimeter player on both ends of the floor, Wright is strictly a 4. He's a post player, he's a good shot blocker around the basket. Sure, he may extend his range... but comparing these two is like comparing Prince to Bosh.
     
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    Prince gets on the block alot more than you realize, and Wright isnt always back to the basket. Wright, IMO, will develop into that perimeter type of player where he will play face to basket but will every once in a while play back-to-basket...like in late games, which Prince does. Btw, Tayshaun is a excellent shotblocker...but more of a trailing blocker rather than a half-court block..alot like Wright.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ May 30 2007, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Prince gets on the block alot more than you realize, and Wright isnt always back to the basket. Wright, IMO, will develop into that perimeter type of player where he will play face to basket but will every once in a while play back-to-basket...like in late games, which Prince does. Btw, Tayshaun is a excellent shotblocker...but more of a trailing blocker rather than a half-court block..alot like Wright.</div>
    Chauncey Billups gets on the block too, that doesn't mean he's not a perimeter player. Paul Pierce posts up a lot, he's still a perimeter player. Wright and Prince are very different. Prince is a wing, he's a perimeter player, a perimeter defender. Everything Wright does is 13-15 feet and in. He's a big man, a 4, a post player. I don't know how else to put this, and I don't understand how you think they should be compared with one another.
     
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    Tayshaun can defend on the perimeter and can shoot on the outside, but hes also a good interior defender and a good post up player. THAT is why I said a underdeveloped Prince, cause Wright doesn't have that versitility yet. Wright isnt just a post player, he has a outside game, and it more face to the basket than people realize. I shouldve just said Chris Bosh...cause it wouldvt been easier...but you made a joke about it, but Bosh and some of Princes game are alike.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ May 30 2007, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tayshaun can defend on the perimeter and can shoot on the outside, but hes also a good interior defender and a good post up player. THAT is why I said a underdeveloped Prince, cause Wright doesn't have that versitility yet. Wright isnt just a post player, he has a outside game, and it more face to the basket than people realize. I shouldve just said Chris Bosh...cause it wouldvt been easier...but you made a joke about it, but Bosh and some of Princes game are alike.</div>
    Just because two players are long, lanky, and agile doesn't mean that they are similar basketball players. There is no other way to put this... Brandan Wright is a power forward, a big man, an around the basket player. Sure, he has a face up game, but he and Prince are SO different. Sure, Prince is a versatile defender and sure he can hold his own playing defense in the paint... but that doesn't make him a 4 and it doesn't make him similar to post players. Prince is a perimeter player that runs the floor, shoots the ball well from the outside, moves without the ball, and plays excellent defense. They are so different. They play entirely different positions, their games are different, and I just don't understand this.

    Bosh/Prince's games are alike? How? Again, you're only saying this because they are both long, lanky, agile. They are very different players.
     
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    Austin, are you seriously trying to compare Tayshaun Prince and Brandan Wright? Come on guy.
     
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    Brandan Wright reminds me of a cross between Bosh and D-Howard. It makes perfect sense to me.And Durant is right now is most similar to Rashard Lewis but will definetley end up way better.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ May 30 2007, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Brandan Wright reminds me of a cross between Bosh and D-Howard. It makes perfect sense to me.</div>
    That makes no sense though, Pacers fan. Bosh and Howard are extremely different. Howard is physically imposing and strictly a power player, a defensive force, and he has a very limited post game. Bosh is athletic, long, finesse, has a soft touch, and out-quicks his opponents. Wright/Bosh makes a ton of sense, but not Howard.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ May 30 2007, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Brandan Wright reminds me of a cross between Bosh and D-Howard. It makes perfect sense to me.</div>Bosh and Howard are like complete opposites. I don't know how that can make sense? CB32 just explained how Howard and Bosh are SO different.. I just dont understand
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ May 30 2007, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That makes no sense though, Pacers fan. Bosh and Howard are extremely different. Howard is physically imposing and strictly a power player, a defensive force, and he has a very limited post game. Bosh is athletic, long, finesse, has a soft touch, and out-quicks his opponents. Wright/Bosh makes a ton of sense, but not Howard.</div>First, we're not comparing Bosh and Howard, we're comparing Wright. Wright is a very gifted athlete and freak of nature who can play some outstanding defense and rebound. But on the other hand Wright has the physical style most similar to Bosh and has some certain finnesse and agility that Bosh posseses. To me Wright is a combination of the two.
     

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