Event Draft Day 2016: Rumors and Trades - 1st round

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Do the Blazers acquire a pick?

  1. A pick in the 20-30 range

  2. A pick in the 31-40 range

  3. A late 2nd rounder

  4. Paul Allen loves Draft Day and we get 2 picks

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    If it is coming from Whiteside's camp then they are just negotiating and getting his price up. I think he'll stay with Miami.
     
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    Not sure what the point of negotiating is. He will get a max contract from multiple teams, including most likely Miami.
     
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    MIA doesn't have his full bird rights. They can only pay him roughly MAX money if Wade takes a HUGE pay cut.
     
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    They use a strange calculation for max salary %'s (using 42.14% of BRI instead of 44.74% for calculating team cap). Off the team cap, it's actually 23.55%, not the full 25%.
     
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    Alright. Even better then.
     
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    Not really all that huge. If they renounce everyone, they can still pay Wade something like 18M and give Whiteside the max.
     
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    So if our summer is signing someone like Whiteside with our cap space, and nothing else, will that be enough?

    I just don't know. Honestly, I'd almost rather have Howard. I know he's older, and I know he has a history of back problems.... but the guy is a proven scorer. He's a threat in the post. Whiteside is not.
     
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    Some of those are no big deal to renounce (Joe Johnson, Stoudemire, Wright) but some of those are not no-brainers (Deng and Tyler Johnson who they really like as a young guy). But yes, huge is at least slight overstatement. Cut for sure though. And it could be a HUGE cut if they do keep one of their cap holds or resign a guy.
     
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    There were reports about a month ago that they were going to ask HW to take less than the max.
     
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    Whiteside averaged 14 pts a game last year. Howard averaged 13.7 last year, 15.8 the year before. As his athleticism has declined, so has his ability to score.
     
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    Think the problem is because they don't want to lose Deng for nothing. And they'd probably be in lux tax territory unless they get rid of McBob as well.
     
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    Oddly enough, what Wade was looking for last year (50M/3y) is significantly lower than that slot. If he were to take a salary at that level this summer, that would start at only 15.5M. So, they could still keep Johnson, Wade, and Whiteside, and not have any issues (except for losing Deng, which they'd probably do in a heartbeat if it meant keeping Whiteside).
     
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    Its a no brainer to me. Adams game got so much better this year. He's borderline top 5 center after watching the playoffs.
     
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    Wade seems to be on the LeBron plan of taking 1 year deals with possible 2nd year options though. Might fancy himself of leaving to join some other super team at some point. Who knows why but he is also getting very broken down so MIA would be foolish to give him 3 year deal without outs imo.
     
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    Just because he looks like Adam Morrison's big brother doesn't mean you have to love the guy.
     
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    They may also be able to buy out Bosh, if it's decided he can't play any more - which is quite possible.
     
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    Howard rated out slightly better last year in the post (.82 ppp vs .79) but neither are effecient enough to make it a big part of your offense. The advantage Howard has on Whiteside right now is experience and the history of being an impactful defensive presence. Whiteside still has some work to do on that end despite his impressive block #'s.
     
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    Woj is broadcasting a show online through his vertical site
     
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    lol he is going to destroy ESPN's coverage
     
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