Notice |Draft| The case for Harry Giles

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  1. PCmor7

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    I think Rabb would be gone at 26. If Giles was there and we got a couple of guys like Anunoby and Patton (or someone similar) already, Giles would be a steal at that pick. Your risk factor is lessened by the players you already picked, and his upside I think makes him worth the risk, providing someone with comparable upside doesn't unexpectedly drop into your lap.
     
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    Rabb might be gone at 26 but should still available at 18. DraftExpress currently have Collins, Patton, Ike, Rabb and Hartenstein available with our and in some cases Memphis pick.

    NBADraft.net actually predict Justin Jackson to be available with all our picks but that's obviously stupid.

    We will have three shots which is great. I don't see a reason to combine two picks and trade up. Better take three chances at some of Patton, Collins, Rabb, Anunoby, Giles, Ike etc.

    We will prioritize power forward and have lots of choice. We may also like someone who can play both PF and C, and probably get a small forward with one of the picks, unless we just go for 3 big men and see which of them works out. We will have minutes to share between Nurk, Vonleh and the new 2-3 players anyway.
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    That's the risk, and I'd take it.
     
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    Damn I almost immediately got the same vibe I had with McCollum after hearing about this connection with Lillard. Maybe it's just meant to be. Lol. What if we ended up with both rabb and Giles. Giles personality screams Blazers as well.
     
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    OG has a lot of potential, and so does Ojeleye. Patton, Adebeyo, and Anigbogu will all be role players at best.

    Giles has more upside than all of them.
     
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    In a draft with 3 picks, it's a failure if you don't take at least 1 boom or bust prospect.

    I'd rather take 3 players with a 33% chance to become an all-star and a 67% chance to be absolutely nothing, than to take 3 guys with a 75% chance to be a decent role player, and a 25% chance to be nothing.

    The first scenario, you likely get one all-star with a small chance at two.
    In the 2nd scenario, you get two or three role players.

    Well guess what, we don't need more role players!! We need a legit piece on the level of our big 3. Giles has that potential.
     
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    It'd be cool, but I just don't like Rabb's game. He has the skills of a center and the size of a PF. He's not big enough to play C but he can't shoot either. He's not that athletic and he isn't a great defender. Just not sure what he brings to the table. He should be a 2nd round draft pick IMO.
     
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    So, consensus picks from the room are Anunoby at 16, Giles at 20, and Ojeleye at 26?
     
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    Giles is the biggest boom or bust prospect in years IMO. He'd be the consensus #1 pick this year if it weren't for his injury history. That is a big concern though - do you take him over much safer picks like J. Collins or Anunoby?
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Not me. I still want to trade up to get Ferguson or take him with our pick of everyone is sleeping on him
     
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    I've only made a few 'making a case' draft threads since 2013:

    *Meyers Leonard
    *CJ McCollum/Rudy Gobert/Nikola Jokic
    *Kristaps Porzingis/Myles Turner/Willy Hernangomez
    *Harry Giles/John Collins/Robert Williams

    Obviously I was stoned when I made the pre-draft case for Meyers.
     
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    Still think Fultz, Jackson and Tatum would be ahead of him. I know he was never 100% this year, but even during his HS days I thought his talent was overrated, especially on the offensive end. Certainly not on Bosh's level.

    I'd still be fine with him with the Cle pick though.
     
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    He will walk in the footsteps of Oden.
     
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    I tend toward this opinion as well. But I understand the swing for the fences mentality. If he does pan out, it could be huge for the franchise, and the opportunity cost is low.
     
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    Looks like a pretty good prospect. I'm getting sour on the idea of getting a "stretch 4". I know Stotts seems to love that for his system, but this team really needs guys that can play inside.
     
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    I didn't like him in One Direction, and I wouldn't like him on the Blazers. Slow white British players under 6' tall are not the players we need to take the next step. Ask Lavar Ball how he feels about white kids with slow foot speed. Plus he's already 23. Is he too old to improve?
     
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    "Giles is a wildcard for the draft as he came back in late December and struggled to show much explosiveness off his surgically repaired knee(s). Giles was once seen as a potential No. 1 pick, but concerns about his knees have his stock falling. He’s no longer considered a likely lottery pick after struggling mightily in limited minutes at Duke. His inability to play physical and get any lift after contact is a major concern."

    What is cooling my interest is there are rumors that he had a fourth surgery that he's keeping under wraps. That's four surgeries before his 19th birthday.

    IMO he's still worth the risk - with the MEM/CLE pick - but he's definitely a walking red-flag.
     
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    His knees look like a GREAT FIT for our team!
     

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