Maybe it's just because he's also a white American, but his comparison is Nick Collison. I guess I would be cool with that at 26 if we kept our picks, no higher than that though.
Yeah. That is a good comparison. Steph probably doesn't have the measurable of some of the other guards but fakes them out or shoots the lights out.
Leaf would be alright he kind remind Kevin Mchale with his long reach and some of his moves. His flaw would be on defense side of the ball.
People whine and complain about the white guys we already do have on the roster, why would we want another one?
Who is whining about The Bosnian Beast? I want their names now and they will be turn over to Papa Nurkic.
Who have we drafted recently that can't shoot? It seems like all we draft is guys who can only shoot.
If you want to talk recently then let me change that to "signed". Our biggest recent free agents (all who I like ) can't shoot. ET, Aminu, Harkless, and Davis . Bottom line is we need players who have multiple skills so they can stay on the court. Leaf has offensive skills Why are we convinced that Leaf is a poor defender? Because he is not strong? He can get stronger. Is he slow? No Is he short? No Is he not athletic? No Is he white? ..............
Buuuuuut Steph is quick as a hiccup and speedy. When you can do that and have limitless range it makes you unguardable.
I'd take Zach Collins in a heartbeat. I'd even move up to take him. Looks like we're in position to do that.
I watch almost every Pac 12 game. Plus I live in LA so yeah I have seen him play. The kid was a McDonald's All American. It's Not like he came out of nowhere. He chose UCLA over Oregon last year after decommitting from Arizona. so yes I have been watching him closely for a while. Not saying he has ideal lateral quickness, but few PF's do and the ones that do usually have other weaknesses. You need multiple types of PF's IMO. Leaf has a lot of intangibles. Not saying take him at 15 but I would at 20 unless someone else unexpectedly slips to us. He is no Adam Morrison who I knew would be a bust. Leaf does not have to rely on being an explosive athlete at the PF position like AM did at SF. As I have said before he might take a year or two to physically develop but he certainly has the skills already.
I just don't see it. He doesn't pass the eye test. He's just not a fast twitch athlete. Plus, he didn't defend in college so he won't be able to at the next level. Edit: And he's very much like Adam Morrison in the fact that he's never open. Every time he scores somebody is in his face. That's not going to translate to the next level either.
I would take Zach Collins over TJ in a heartbeat but I would not say Zach is a fast twitch athlete either. I get that UCLA as a whole had the reputation of not defending because of their fast paced run n gun style. But that doesn't mean he can not defend. He actually has pretty good instincts and timing on his blocks. I think once he gets stronger it will help his D. He has a high BBIQ IMO. Never open? He was open all the time. Especially on the perimeter and when he ran the floor. He was just very unselfish so he often passed it back. UCLA had a lot of weopons. And the fact that he does score with someone in his face....is that not a positive? If he played next to Dame, CJ, and Nurk.......he would be open. He has a good pull up jump shot as well. He can put the ball on the floor and he can flat out pass. (For a big man) I don't think TJ is a must get, but if he had stayed in school another year we would have no chance at him next year. He would have been a high lottery pick. He is only going to get better. So at 20 I think he is a good investment for the future.
