<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Apr 10 2008, 09:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Apr 10 2008, 08:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This draft has a lot of huge SF. Beasley, Greene, Gallinari and Randolph. I wonder what Thorn thinks about them because <u>they sometimes can get a post game</u> but also have an outside shot.</div> That's my problem with some of those guys. I'm not a fan of tall guys with not a lot of weight on them that play mostly on the perimeter and have no range on their shot. Players like Greene and Randolph remind me of Harrington, Warrick, Deng, Villanueva, Marvin Williams, Brandon Wright, etc. I never see these types of players on winning teams. With one exception, Kirilenko. I know there has been a couple players that put up good numbers lately like Durant and Rudy Gay, but I'm still not convinced anyone can contend for a championship with them yet. Odom was able to add weight and become very effective. I guess the key is if they can add weight, develop range on their shot, or develop a post game. Without the weight they won't get much of a post game. Also, on the defensive end can they guard 4s without getting pushed around? Can they keep up with the speed of NBA 3s on the outside? Sean Williams is in this world of discovering what he's going to be. I think he needs to add weight and be a 4. Its the only way he can fully utilize his best asset which is weakside shot blocking. He needs to add about 10lbs of muscle this summer. The NBA is bigger, faster and stronger than college. Those best equiped will make the biggest impact. Those that can't adapt their body or game fail. Danny Granger is a prime example of someone built to succeed on the NBA level. Has both strength and speed. </div> True, the hybrid 3/4 seems to be quite popular these days, with tall players choosing to develop wing skills rather than fundamental low-block big-man techniques (perhaps socialization that reflects the changing NBA?) Donte Green separates himself from the pack because I think he has a better perimeter shot than Randolph. I think him at his best could be Reshard Lewis. He's an exciting prospect, but after drafting a bunch of 'potential' guys I'd like to see the Nets take someone thats a bit more refined. CDR, Rush, etc.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 10 2008, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 10 2008, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 10 2008, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Apr 9 2008, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Assuming that the Nets continue to draft according to their recently-shown preferences, I think there are only three legitimate options at this point: Westbrook, Budinger, and CDR. I really can't see them drafting a PG or a big. Among other things, they don't draft players at the same position in the first round in consecutive rounds, so I wouldn't expect them to take another PF. I also can't see them taking a PG unless they trade Marcus. It could happen, but I think Rod's preference is to stick with the players he has and give them a chance to develop (as you all know). That would leave a SG or SF, and of course they prefer a big kid from a major team in a major conference who is not a freshman, a "team player," can pass and play some defense, and is pretty smart. I think it'll be between those three players OR the Nets will deal the pick. I haven't seen any of them--haven't watched a college game all season--but from what I read Budinger isn't very good defensively, and I suspect that they'll try to get someone who plays strong perimeter defense, which the other two do. Don't know if Westbrook has declared, or will declare. Two other players that might be in the mix are Brandon Rush and Earl Clark of Louisville. They don't seem as highly regarded, though, and maybe the Nets could get one with the Dallas pick.</div> I think Early Clark will be one of the best players to come out of this draft. They list him at 6'9 but in no way is he under 6'10 and he plays small forward. He put on about 10 pounds of muscle last off-season and if he puts on about 10 more, watch out. </div> cmoney from espn boards? is that you? haha Im invalidreject on espn boards! What up dude </div> haha what's going on man? Something happened with my computer so now that everytime I go to the espn boards none of the threads show up. Really weird. This place seems to have a lot of action so I figured I'd give it a try. </div> Yeah man theres more action here than on the espn boards, but i still check whats going on there once in awhile you know? good to have you here tho
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 10 2008, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 10 2008, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 10 2008, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Early Clark will be one of the best players to come out of this draft. They list him at 6'9 but in no way is he under 6'10 and he plays small forward. He put on about 10 pounds of muscle last off-season and if he puts on about 10 more, watch out.</div> Welcome to S2, Cmoney! If you have any questions or anything, PM me and lemme know. So, are you a Big East fan, or a Louisville/Clark fan? Or did you just happen to read this somewhere? </div> Im probably I little biased with Earl because he grew up about 10 minutes from me, so I actually got to play against him twice a year. Derrick Caracter, who declared for the NBA from Louisville, grew up in my town so I've known him for a long time. But I can seriously see Earl being a really good pro. He played point in high school and never really developed a back to the basket game, so for a 6'10, 6'11 guy he's got really good ball handling skills. He's a little Lebron-esque, as he kind of does everything on the court. He'll be a first rounder so I'll be hoping we draft him. Thanks by the way. </div> Ah, I see. That must have been pretty cool. And you're welcome. I didn't realize Earl was first-round talent. I don't really know much about him (I missed the SU vs. Louisville game ).
It would be pretty cool having Earl Clark as a Net. Whenever I watched him play on Louisville he sucked, but when I was a Frosh and he was a Senior we played his team and he ripped us everytime..
The draft is definitely exciting, but if the Nets take two kids and make no other significant moves, the team will be just as disappointing as this year. I think we need a miracle, and the Nets to receive one of the top-three picks . . . and then deal it for a stud PF.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Apr 10 2008, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It would be pretty cool having Earl Clark as a Net. Whenever I watched him play on Louisville he sucked, but when I was a Frosh and he was a Senior we played his team and he ripped us everytime..</div> Really? Where are you from? I think he would fit in perfectly with this team however, considering rebounding is probably his strongest attribute. If we continue to go to a more run and gun style of play it would be even better with him because he is a tremendous athlete with great finishing ability.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 10 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Apr 10 2008, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It would be pretty cool having Earl Clark as a Net. Whenever I watched him play on Louisville he sucked, but when I was a Frosh and he was a Senior we played his team and he ripped us everytime..</div> Really? Where are you from? I think he would fit in perfectly with this team however, considering rebounding is probably his strongest attribute. If we continue to go to a more run and gun style of play it would be even better with him because he is a tremendous athlete with great finishing ability. </div> This small town right next to Rahway, where you from?
raptors hate vince b/c they miss him and we have him now and it sucks that vince is not the snowman he was in toronto. so i want a WIN AND FREAKIN WIN AGAINST CANADA !!!!! lol
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Apr 11 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 10 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Apr 10 2008, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It would be pretty cool having Earl Clark as a Net. Whenever I watched him play on Louisville he sucked, but when I was a Frosh and he was a Senior we played his team and he ripped us everytime..</div> Really? Where are you from? I think he would fit in perfectly with this team however, considering rebounding is probably his strongest attribute. If we continue to go to a more run and gun style of play it would be even better with him because he is a tremendous athlete with great finishing ability. </div> This small town right next to Rahway, where you from? </div> Scotch Plains which is basically right next to Rahway
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Apr 11 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 10 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Apr 10 2008, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It would be pretty cool having Earl Clark as a Net. Whenever I watched him play on Louisville he sucked, but when I was a Frosh and he was a Senior we played his team and he ripped us everytime..</div> Really? Where are you from? I think he would fit in perfectly with this team however, considering rebounding is probably his strongest attribute. If we continue to go to a more run and gun style of play it would be even better with him because he is a tremendous athlete with great finishing ability. </div> This small town right next to Rahway, where you from? </div> Scotch Plains which is basically right next to Rahway </div> Really? I used to ball around there a while ago. I also used to play at IHM when I was lil. He probably doesn't remember me, but you probably know him. I used to play wit Jimmy Burke.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Apr 11 2008, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Apr 11 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 10 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Apr 10 2008, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It would be pretty cool having Earl Clark as a Net. Whenever I watched him play on Louisville he sucked, but when I was a Frosh and he was a Senior we played his team and he ripped us everytime..</div> Really? Where are you from? I think he would fit in perfectly with this team however, considering rebounding is probably his strongest attribute. If we continue to go to a more run and gun style of play it would be even better with him because he is a tremendous athlete with great finishing ability. </div> This small town right next to Rahway, where you from? </div> Scotch Plains which is basically right next to Rahway </div> Really? I used to ball around there a while ago. I also used to play at IHM when I was lil. He probably doesn't remember me, but you probably know him. I used to play wit Jimmy Burke. </div> haha no way I know Jimmy Burke, I used to play at IHM too. Then played at Saint Helens and eventually moved on the the Fanwood Flames with Lance Thomas and Derrick Caracter. What's your name?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Apr 10 2008, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The draft is definitely exciting, but if the Nets take two kids and make no other significant moves, the team will be just as disappointing as this year. I think we need a miracle, and the Nets to receive one of the top-three picks . . . and then deal it for a stud PF.</div> Oh, I dont think you have to worry about that. I think there will be several significant moves. I think RJ's last home game as a Net is Tuesday night. I think they keep Carter, but I wouldnt be surprised if he is traded. Not much would surprise me. While I like this group and I like Frank, I would be neither upset nor disappointed if any of them were traded, dumped, waived etc. I don't think Harris is going anywhere, but other than him, I don't see any of these guys as untouchable. I could even see Boone or Sean Williams added to a deal for a low post scorer with a big contract. As for the draft, not much would surprise me, other than the Nets drafting--and signing three kids--for next year. One or more of those picks will either be traded, sold or more likely used to take a European.
hmm... depends where we draft but just throwing some names out of whom i like: kevin love - havent had a big as polished as him in a while. adds a shooter, rebounder and a guy who can pass through the center position. unlike some, i think he will have a great career and a chance to start brandon rush - pure shooter who is also a good defender, could help the nets in two big weakspots. CDR - very athletic and quick. doesnt help outside shooting but gives us a guy who can attack the basket and run the break
Draft Express has updated their mock, which has them including a couple of interesting prospects falling to the top of the 2nd. Specifically though, why am I bringing this up? Because they have Joey Dorsey indeed getting drafted ...by the Nets lol
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Apr 13 2008, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Draft Express has updated their mock, which has them including a couple of interesting prospects falling to the top of the 2nd. Specifically though, why am I bringing this up? Because they have Joey Dorsey indeed getting drafted ...by the Nets lol</div> I dont think the mock draft is right GM.... it appears to say that we made the playoffs and the hawks didnt? Lol i think it needs to update
foolish not to take CDR. w/ Harris and Boone/Swill you have a good fast break squad, Vince is also good on the outlet pass/3pt trailor. I kinda want Hardin tho. maybe that's stupid.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Apr 12 2008, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Apr 10 2008, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The draft is definitely exciting, but if the Nets take two kids and make no other significant moves, the team will be just as disappointing as this year. I think we need a miracle, and the Nets to receive one of the top-three picks . . . and then deal it for a stud PF.</div> Oh, I dont think you have to worry about that. I think there will be several significant moves. I think RJ's last home game as a Net is Tuesday night. I think they keep Carter, but I wouldnt be surprised if he is traded. Not much would surprise me. While I like this group and I like Frank, I would be neither upset nor disappointed if any of them were traded, dumped, waived etc. I don't think Harris is going anywhere, but other than him, I don't see any of these guys as untouchable. I could even see Boone or Sean Williams added to a deal for a low post scorer with a big contract. As for the draft, not much would surprise me, other than the Nets drafting--and signing three kids--for next year. One or more of those picks will either be traded, sold or more likely used to take a European. </div> You could be right about RJ. You know, if they are actively looking to trade him, it gives them a great opportunity to really define the identity of the team. I personally wouldn't be upst if they dealt Sean; I think his value as a kid with "upside" is more than the actual value he'll return over the next few years. One decision the nets obviously have to make is whether they want to try to get better in a hurry, or whether they want to take their time and slowly build a strong nucleus. Since I expect that Vince will remain on the team, I think that the latter is unreasonable . . . Sean will take a couple of years to be productive, if he ever turns the corner, but he'll be attractive to a team that DOES want to take their time at building a nucleus. Same, obviously, with Marcus. The problem with dealing Marcus is one of chemistry: It would leave the team with just one returning PG, which means that they'd have to sign two more . . . unless Marcus is actually dealt before or at the draft, I can't imagine them drafting a PG--what if they were unable to then deal Marcus? Wouldn't that by itself reduce his trade value, since everyone would know that you HAVE to move him? It wouldn't bother me if Boone was not a starter . . . but I think he's a keeper. I think Krstic is coming back, but as I've said before, I'm not sure how I feel about that. He's been terrible since returning, and who knows what his upside is now at this point. I found it fascinating that the articles today didn't discuss any of the new players--Hassell, Swift, Diop, and Ager. I suspect that they're stuck with Swift and Hassell, unless they're moved with their top asset: the lottery pick. That's 1/7 of their roster and roughly $10 million. Again, I wish they still had Collins instead of Swift. Hassell MAY have some minimal value for a team wanting a defensive specialist. I personally don't see the point in having one of your top bench players be able to play defense and not shoot, and the other top bench guy be able to shoot and not play defense.
Just watched some Gallinari hilights and read some profiles. I wouldn't be disappointed if he dropped and the Nets took him at 10.
Mock sites have us taking DeAndre Jordan. I don't mind this but it really defines the direction we are heading into. CDR or Rush is a must with the Dallas pick if availible.
I wouldn't feel too bad taking CDR at 10 if the alternative is another project big. Personally I think that CDR is gone from 11-20 if we don't snatch him up at 10.
