So true. actually been looking into that this week. Waiting on some call backs. I had power of attorney of my grandmother when i had her moved down her by me but she was willing and accepting and it was easy. Now i cant get anyone on the phone and am waiting on a couple callbacks. not easy is the understatement of the year. oh that has been the tone from the get go really. we have tried all sorts of things, from looking into a vets program that helps addicts and what not. But nothing works because he is in denial. i appreciate your attempt at comfort. and yep. Impossible to help someone who wont admit to having a problem. we have met with AA members. Ive very familiar with it as alchohol runs in my family and at one point about 20 years ago i was busted with possession of some marijuana and had to attend na meetings for a while. Im very familiar with them, but you are right. Explaining to them the situation might provide for some out of the box answers/suggestions. Thanks everyone. Been a tough week.