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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    I have been a member of EDuck which was merged with 247 for about 20 years. I see that rating but I am extremely skeptical because it lacks context.

    right now I'm looking at Oregon's 2001 recruiting class:

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    notice how none of the other recruits have ratings? That makes no sense at all. 247 didn't exist until 2010. Kind of baffling how they supposedly have a composite ranking a decade before they wee founded

    the internet hadn't really gained much momentum by 2001. There was almost no budget for any independent analysis of the thousands of high schools and hundreds of thousand athletes 21 years ago. My hunch is that there were just a handful of writers gauging a couple of hundred players, at most, and I am certain none of them went to Burns Oregon to actually evaluate Clemens
     
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    I was fairly confident going by what I was told in the last week that Bo would be back. He's definitely the bird in the hand

    Moore is almost certainly gone but another thing I've been told (and I can't be certain it isn't some Duck sour grapes) is that UCLA came in and made a ridiculous NIL offer to Moore

    if that's true, then maybe the timing of Bo's announcement is no coincidence because Oregon supposedly made a substantial NIL offer to Moore. So, maybe Nix is getting some of that. I hope the rest they use on the best available edge rusher, a cornerback, and a LB that is good in coverage. The Duck D this year sucked ass
     
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    All valid points. Either way, I guess it would be hard to say he was a 3* or a 4/5* with any confidence.
     
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    Would be so interesting to know how the negotiations between Moore and Nix both went. Undoubtedly, Nix gained a ton of leverage in the last couple days with the news of Moore to UCLA leaking. Oregon had to get Nix back.
     
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    Haven’t you heard? Bo’s back.
     
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    I meant to say "had" not "has"... I'll edit it for accuracy; good catch!
     
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    Another example of someone who was incorrectly labeled to have effort issues...



     
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    Bo back/Moore gone, or yeah/sigh...

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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The transfer portal and NIL have ruined college sports.
     
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    I disagree...strongly

    what happened, finally, is that the SCOTUS tore away the absolute phony label of amateur sports the NCAA hid behind for decades. The only way the system survived as long as it did is because all sides operated as if the NCAA, and all the member institutions, had an anti-trust exemption. And of course, the athletes had no say and no power because they were just the equipment. The courts finally said no

    what's laughable is that as soon as the athletes tilted the equation just a little ways in their favor, and gained a little power of their own in the form of NIL and the transfer portal, the whole house of cards came tumbling down. That's because the foundation was rotten to the core
     
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    You have to admit it's making the strongest programs stronger and the less prominent programs weaker.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Sure, it's all because of a rotten foundation. I'm sure that if the NBA suddenly had no contracts and no salary cap, and every offseason were just undeterred free agency, its "foundation" would keep it from becoming a complete spitshow.
     
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    don't buy the comparison, sorry...the NBA has an anti-trust exemption. The NCAA doesn't but has acted like they have for decades. That's the rot in the foundation and the courts finally said no more

    I don't get the "no contracts" stuff. NCAA athletes haven't had contracts from their universities and still don't. Just scholarships. And the NBA has no control over their players NIL deals. And their players are free to pursue any NIL deals with almost no exceptions

    I'll say it again...all it took was the players having a little bit of freedom via the transfer portal, and a little bit of compensation in the form of NIL, and apparently the NCAA is having trouble surviving

    by the way, the NLRB has, or is in the process, of filing a lawsuit against USC, the Pac-12, and the NCAA saying that the players are employees and all those institutions have been profiting off of the situation illegally. The lawsuit is confined to private universities which is probably political and practical. If successful, the players will be considered employees with the right to unionize. The worms in the can though are if the players are employees, then free tuition in the form of scholarships becomes taxable compensation. Good luck with that one NLRB
     
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    lol...welcome to capitalism. Besides, that was happening anyway

    I think Kroeger now owns Safeway, Albertson's, and Fred Meyer....strong get stronger
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    As was predicted every time someone talked about paying college athletes. None of this has been surprising.
     
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    I think this marks the 50th anniversary of college athletes being paid.
     
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    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

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    My point. College should not be run by capitalism. That was the point.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Yeah but at least they had to try to hide it before.
     
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    True... that was the worst part. Finally some transparency!
     

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