Dump Lopez, sign Asik?!?

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  1. Minstrel

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    I wouldn't mind trading Kaman for Asik, I don't care what you guys say.
     
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    Is there a way to hide this thread from my list so I don't have to look at it any more?
     
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    Ya like thats going to happen.
     
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    Same $ contract and I'd probably take Asik

    Dwight Howard abused Robin Lopez in the playoffs

    When Houston switched Asik to Aldridge that really changed the series. Asik did a pretty good job on Aldridge.
     
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    Is that just an observation or do you have the stats to back it up? I saw it much differently, so I'm curious how you came up with that conclusion?

    Okay, I looked up the stats regarding Lopez vs. Houston. This isn't advanced, just the actual performance.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3447/robin-lopez

    The first game he definitely stunk it up: 6 points, 8 rebounds, 1 block 28% from the field. But from that point, he really got into his groove.

    Game 2: 6 points, 10 rebounds, 60% FG, 3 blocks
    Game 3: 11 points, 8 rebounds, 50% FG, 3 blocks
    Game 4: 6 points, 11 rebounds, 100% FG, 1 block
    Game 5: 17 points, 8 rebounds, 50% FG, 4 blocks
    Game 6: 12 points, 7 rebounds, 50% FG, 4 blocks

    Now you said Asik did a good job

    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3414/omer-asik

    There was only 1 game where I would consider Asik out performed Lopez and that was game 5. Every other game, he was not even close
     
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    I think it's more about defense than offense. Howard lit Lopez up; Asik slowed Aldridge down. If you didn't see that, then I think you and I were watching different series'.
     
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    Slowing him down on 2 of the 6 games isn't what I consider "Stellar". And it wasn't just Asik on Aldridge bro... Howard and Asik were on Aldridge.
     
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    Who said "stellar"? Nobody. What was said was "pretty good", which he was. Howard was largely ineffective on Aldridge too, and we all know Jones was. Asik did enough defensively to make a difference, to affect the series positively. By comparison, Lopez never slowed Howard a bit.

    Now as far as team defense, help defense, positioning, etc. are concerned, Lopez was probably superior. And he didn't have an all-NBA defender helping him like Asik did. But lets not be myopic about the disparity between the two when it comes to one-on-one.
     
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    I don't think he was trying to compare offensive production in the playoffs of Robin and Asik, though.
     
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    Mags being Mags ITT

    Aldridge went from dominating to shooting 40% over the next 4 games, with game 4 being his only real good game after games 1 and 2. Games 3/5/6 he shot under 40%, otherwise known as James Harden territory.

    Asik made it much tougher on him and that's not really debatable. Mags gonna be Mags, though.

    Dwight Howard otoh put up monster numbers over the 6 games. Again, not debatable.

    It continues to amaze me how things that are obvious continue to be argued against on this forum. Watch the game and learn the facts.
     
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    Are we just doing a hypothetical debate or are you really agreeing that getting asik over Lopez is a good idea?
     
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    So...it is opined that Asik defended Aldridge better than Lopez defended Dwight Howard? Even if assumed to be true, it does not prove that Asik would therefore defend Howard better than Lopez defended Howard, or more to the point, that the Blazers would be better with Asik than Lopez. So I guess I don't know what the point really is.
     
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    Getting Asik in place of Lopez would not be a good idea, for many reasons.

    However, it would be generally considered inaccurate to suggest that Lopez was Asik's equal defensively in the PDX-HOU series.

    I don't see those positions as incompatible.
     
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    For me those reasons start with (1) attitude, (2) chemistry, (3) free throw shooting, (4) offense, (5) personality, (6) hairdo. I mean, seriously, Asik has bad hair man! ;)
     
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    There you go. Can't argue with any of that.
     
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    Then I would only suggest in the manner I replied to Roytoy, since he was advocating the trade saying that asik was a better contributor than Lopez if the shoe was on the other foot. I completely disagree with that concept. And I also disagree that defensively, asik would be a better fit to play beside Aldridge.

    Lopez has proven it works... Asik has proven he whined and sulked.
     
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    This article is so bad, the name Ryan should drop out of fashion like Adolph. It's a crime against humanity.
     

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