Dwight Jaynes vs Mo Williams, the war is on!

Not sure if serious or not but if so I assume he meant Tyreke Evans.

 

Jaynes is right, which is rare.

 

Which part is he "right" about? He is right is stating what the stats read. But that's about where his "right-ness" ends.

 

So livingston is a better backup PG? Evans? et al?

 

He's right that Mo sucks.

 

Yeah agreed! I think what Mo often does is dribble down the court and look for an easy scoring opportunity or a mismatch. When he sees those he passes the ball. A third of the time there isn't one of those great opportunities available, so he ends up shooting a mediocre shot. No we don't want him to shoot those every possession but when time is running off the shot clock its great that he can always find at least an acceptable attempt. With him shooting it also means we have two big men available to crash the boards for offensive rebounds. If instead Mo passed it to Freeland we will will end up with more terrible looks and the big men won't be in as good of position to crash the boards.

 

Dumb post. "Sucks" is a relative term.

 

They are both right. Mo is the most expendable and our bench has been lame. However, we don't need to make a move unless something awesome comes up. I think with Meyers looking better and TRob getting hyped up, not to mention CJ, and we are looking a lot better in that area. Mo is a good hot and cold guy, seems he can shoot you in and out of games, but he has done a good job this year of not getting carried away and shooting us out of the games and he's been the hero once or twice. Mo deserves some respect.

 

Considering how great our starters have been Mo does not have to be the best back up PG in the league.

To that a lot of what Jaynes wrote is truthful. Mo has been wildly inconsistent this year and the numbers do suggest the team does play better with him not on the court. For my money Reggie Jackson, Tyreke Evans, and Jarret Jack are a given; however, considering Evans is paid over 10 million a year including him in the comparison seems petty. Sessions is acceptable as well.

But ultimately his no mo room comment trumps everything.

 

In Sweet Home, maybe...

 

I only yell at him for chucking when Lillard or Wes or Batum are standing wide open, and he doesn't give them the ball. His habit of taking a 'heat check' every time he makes a single shot is also laughable. And considering his shooting percentage, he probably should wait for a teammate to cross half court before launching a 3 against three defenders. Other than that, and his terrible defense, he's perfect.

 

They aren't going to get that one, Wook.

(See, Sweet Home is a town not far from Wookee's 'hood....)

 

One thing is sure, as the most polarizing player on the team, Mo is mo money for Denny!

 

Or Lapine.

 

the only one i disagree with is sessions

 

BUT i will say.....fuck advanced stats. i dont care if they say were better with him not on the court. (SEE THOMAS ROBINSON)

 

His eFG% is only .473, 1.8% better than Joel, and 0.7% better than TRob... and that takes into account that 3's are worth more than 2's. His raw FG% is 40.7%, 1% below Will Barton.

 

Completely F'ing Stupid post as I have defined multiple times in multiple threads exactly why he sucks.

Ha, I Cee your insult and raise you! Don't mess with me or HCP and I will invade your basement to play D & D!

 

That list is highly subjective. A couple of the guys are SGs, two are currently starting, one is suspended and not even playing, some play more minutes, several are on really bad teams (which can inflate individual stats), but in spite of people here calling Mo a ball hog, not a single player on that list is averaging more APG than Mo Williams. I'm not saying Mo is better than all of those guys, but it depends on what you need.

Mo Williams:
MPG = 24.2
APG = 4.9

Manu Ginobili:
MPG = 24.1
APG = 4.7

Reggie Jackson:
MPG = 25.9
APG = 3.8

Ramon Sessions:
MPG = 21.9
APG = 2.9

Andre Miller:
MPG = 19.0
APG = 3.3

Darren Collison:
MPG = 20.2
APG = 2.4

Jarrett Jack:
MPG = 28.1
APG = 4.0

Shaun Livingston:
MPG = 23.5
APG = 3.2

Tyreke Evans:
MPG = 25.9
APG = 4.3

Yes, Manu and Evans are better than Mo, but they are really SGs and make way more than Mo. Manu has been one of the best 6th men in the history of the game, makes 3x as much as Mo and will retire a Spur. Evans makes 5x as much as Mo. NOP had to GIVE us Robin Lopez to sign him to that huge contract. And, in spite of being loaded with young talent, NOP are 15-19 and we are 27-9. I'll take Lopez and Mo (and our record) over Tyreke Evans any day. Especially since Lopez and Williams combined make 3/4 as much as Evans.

Dwight is just an old gas bag trying to keep his name relevant. He's stirring up shit for the sake of stirring up shit and Mo is his new target. Considering how little we pay Mo, he's a bargain compared to most of the guys on that list and we're lucky to have him.

BNM